Marksman rifle

[RiccardoTheBeAst]

They are talking about OST.

I doubt the G43 was used in Stalingrad. That being said, it might be in the game regardless.

I apologize, i understood that they were talking about HoS instead of OST and infact i get confused since the G43 didn't exist at that time.

"G43? In HoS?" stands for "What the ----? Is this rifle in HoS?"

Scoped Mkb42? I know scoped Sturmgewehr 44s existed during WW2, but I lack the knowledge of if they were in Stalingrad.

Honestly, the Mkb42 will be available for only 1 player on 32 and, moreover, it's a super rare weapon of which we also don't know if it was present in Stalingrad....so, IMHO, TWI is not going to implement also the even rarer scoped version in the game (if it existed)

Scoped G41 should be nice to have in-game, i hope to see it at release or in a successive DLC (but...is there the scoped SVT40 in game?)

 

[LeopoldStotch]

I don't see why both factions need "mirrored" weapons anyways, RO worked fine without it.

 

[Landrik]

Mkb42? In my ROHOS? It's more likely than you think.

I'm also curious about the production numbers of the G41 with the scope and the Mkb42 during that time.

 

[Ralfst3r]

It's been said that there's a 1.5x scope unlock for the K98, so you could use that as marksman weapon.

 

[Zetsumei]

Nice to know they existed although it looks awkward with the scope mounted that far forward. If it was ingame I'd probably give it a go, semi-auto can be handy if you get caught up in a firefight.

The G41 loads with stripperclips like the k98 thats why you saw those low powered optics mounted on the front of the weapon. To retain the ability to load with stripperclips instead of having to add individual bullets into the gun.

 

[Grobut]

Seriously, the G43 is COMPLETELY out of the time-frame. There's no way TWI could "dodge" that one.

I doubt they would put that in there, a scoped G41 maybe, but not the G43.

A much bigger problem is we don't know if they still plan to use the late 1944 model PPSh in the game..

 

[Bär]

Got any production numbers of the G41 with the ZF-41?

I've Looked through my book collection and honestly numbers for the G41 are sketchy because of their difficulty to produce and the disapproval that came from units with issued rifles. Someone else my have an exact number but through my reading i haven't found any. But it is safe to assume that with such a low number of rifles to begin with the number of weapons fitted with scopes would have been quite low.

Now then, i like the idea to add the rifle in but one problem that i think arises with implementing a rifle with a scope so distant from the eye would be that a lot of "quick shooting"(see: Barret with Holographic sight in CODMW2 ) would occur much like with the reflex sights of today. The optic system would have to be adjusted for the size and distance of the scope from the rifleman.

(ZF-41 mounted on a Kar, the distance from the eye on both rifles is about the same, however the picture is a little to close to the scope to get an accurate representation of length.)​

if the dev's are willing though i think it would be a great addition it would have to be limited much like the Mkb, but i see no problem having it in the game.

 

[Nicholas]

Honestly whats up with all the rare weapons? Why not just focus on the core weapons that 99.99999999% of the soldiers used, I mean I'm sure Germans used thousands of times more captured ppsh's and svt's that they did MKB42'sor Scoped G41's.

 

[Stephen]

The more weapons the better, so long as they are balanced properly (ie some should be rare as hell) and the Tiger is among them.

 

[213]

The more weapons the better, so long as they are balanced properly (ie some should be rare as hell) and the Tiger is among them.

please disregard the cod transplant

less weapons allows more detail for each weapon. and give them stats that reflect their real life performance. "balancing" is for quake

 

[SCandChives]

The G41 loads with stripperclips like the k98 thats why you saw those low powered optics mounted on the front of the weapon. To retain the ability to load with stripperclips instead of having to add individual bullets into the gun.

*facepalm* I didn't even consider that, I knew it and I didn't even consider it. It would still be very awkward though, not much of an easy-to-use sniper's rifle

 

[LemoN]

*facepalm* I didn't even consider that, I knew it and I didn't even consider it. It would still be very awkward though, not much of an easy-to-use sniper's rifle

The ZF-41 was originally designed to be produced and issued like a modern day ACOG scope is. But since the production numbers were never even a fraction of the demand the ZF-41 was issued for designated marksmen, NOT snipers.

 

[Unus Offa Unus Nex]

pr. request:

Mkb42(H) with ZF-41:

 

[SCandChives]

The ZF-41 was originally designed to be produced and issued like a modern day ACOG scope is. But since the production numbers were never even a fraction of the demand the ZF-41 was issued for designated marksmen, NOT snipers.

And then the ZF-42 fitted rifles for snipers? AFAIK designated marksman were attached to a squad, acting with the squad for ranges above those of a regular rifleman correct? And snipers were detatched and used for scouting and combat at ranges of those of designated marksmen and above right? I wouldn't call myself an expert on the subject so thats why I ask. Praise teh almighty LemoN

 

[LemoN]

And then the ZF-42 fitted rifles for snipers? AFAIK designated marksman were attached to a squad, acting with the squad for ranges above those of a regular rifleman correct? And snipers were detatched and used for scouting and combat at ranges of those of designated marksmen and above right? I wouldn't call myself an expert on the subject so thats why I ask. Praise teh almighty LemoN

Snipers in the German army were often detached and acted in a classic "sniper role" and also received special training in the sniper school. They usually had x4 or, later on, even x6 or x8 scopes and didn't regard the ZF 41 as "worth it" (which is quite understandable) and generally rejected it. Designated marksmen on the other hand were simply the best shots of the section and mostly had the x1.5 ZF41 and, later on, the ZF 4. They received no specialised training.

 

[NoxNoctum]

If it is I don't mind to much, but I would always take a bolt action over it.

+1... unless it's shorter ranges, but then you're better off with just iron sights anyways .

 

[NoxNoctum]

It's been said that there's a 1.5x scope unlock for the K98, so you could use that as marksman weapon.

Whoah I hope you mean only for the marksman/sniper/whatever they call it class... if everyone is running around with scoped Kar98s that would be REALLY REALLY REALLY bad.

 

[Falkenhorst]

It's been said that there's a 1.5x scope unlock for the K98, so you could use that as marksman weapon.

I thought the German sniper starts out with the 1.5x scope, then progresses to the 4x and 6x.

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[jalex3]

I thought the German sniper starts out with the 1.5x scope, then progresses to the 4x and 6x.

I'm not sure but I feel that the 1.5x unlock would feel like more of a reward, extra zoom is not as helpful as less.

zoom makes close range hard, while it only makes long range aiming abit faster.

EDIT, i forgot about sniper iron sights kinda takes away the reason id use 1.5x
btw any idea how its iron sites works, when you right click does it use last position or just optics be default.

 

[hockeywarrior]

pr. request:

Mkb42(H) with ZF-41:

Oooooh sweet Jesus. Now if we can dual wield these, this game will be complete!
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