British election

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LemoN

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You obviously have no idea of who the British working class are and the british class system, we are not ultra poor like you are saying, we can afford decent cars and things such as the internet and the like.

being working class in Britain is more than just how much money you make, its more about what community you live in and your family history.

I am NOT talking about the british working class. :rolleyes:

I guess I made myself clear right from the beginning, nowhere was I talking about the working class in my original post. I said lower class.

Can we please close this particular topic now and get back on track with the British election?
 
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mamoo

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Working class you describe = middle class.

With lower class I literally mean the poor people, people who can barely feed their kids despite 2 or more jobs. Where I come from the class you are in is entirely defined by how much money you have and not what you do for a living.

To me, class is mainly dependant on upbringing, you can have a household income of
 

Nestor Makhno

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Whooo - the British class system!!!

this is a thread that can now run and run... what class do you consider yourself, Brits? and who did you vote?

Me, I consider myself middle-class and I voted Lib-Dem.

*EDIT* I know that someone with the name Makhno should not really vote but I remember the 80's and have a morbid fear of the tories getting back in.
 
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Psycho_Sam

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Well im clearly upper class. I didn't vote because things like taxes don't affect the wealthy as we all know, I just have all my money invested in foreign banks to avoid it. However I can't bare to live in some third world country like France so I choose to reside here.
 

fiftyone

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Middle class. All the rest of my family vote Conservative.
Only myself and me mum vote Labor, its just a question of conscience as far as I can discern.

Been living abroad for ages so no vote for me and me me mum died ages ago so thats two votes lost as far as I'm concerned.

I am a member of a Trade Union Syndicate here in France, I don't need to be, in fact there is no reason to be apart from the fact that I 'm a socialist at heart.

I'm in the happy position to regard independently what is happening across
 

NoxNoctum

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All I have to say is you guys are lucky to have a viable 3rd party. Our system here sucks a** :( (USA)

I was looking at a map of the election results by geographic region and it looks like Scotland went about almost entirely Lib Dem... is Scotland like the California of the UK ;)?

Pretty ridiculous though that Lib Dems won 23% of the popular vote and only 8.8% of the seats :(

I do love watching clips of debates in the House of Commons though. So much more energetic than the Senate what with all the hooting and yelling. It's like they actually have balls and aren't afraid to piss people off. Love it.
 
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Nestor Makhno

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By area the map of Scotland may look Lib Dem (or maybe the colour for the Scottish nationalists was the same) but in terms of population Scotland is quite a Labour stronghold. The Conservatives won only one seat in Sctoland - dunno where, prolly somewhere around Edinburgh, where all the posh jocks live.
 

Psycho_Sam

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Yeah scotland is all labour apart from SNP and the likes which looks same colour as lib dem. Click on proportional view to see it better, the consituencies in scotland are vast so it looks like SNP have way more seats than in reality.

Xendance did a little calculation using current votes. Shows that under proportional representation UKIP and BNP get quite a few seats, not something I would really want to see.

http://icon.cat/util/elections/FIIqyzimQO
 

Mahnsikir

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Didnt even get a chance to vote, had an exam last Thursday so was away all day, dont know why there isnt some sort of Holiday or just held on a weekend.

Not that my vote would have done much where I am right now which is just total Labour & SNP, if I was back in Edinburgh North or West my lib dem vote would have made a bit of a difference and I would actually had time to vote grrr.

EDIT: In terms of the British Class structure, as I see it theres not much of a structure now, its all mostly based on your upbringing and education. Plus I dont really care, a man's a man and so on. Whatever.
 
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fiftyone

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Tis about time the interested Party's came to some sort of agreement.
One man one vote ftw...
 

gautrek

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Well i must admit i am getting very pissed off with the whole thing now.
Brown lost the election convincingly.The lib Dems were shockingly bad and lost even more seats.
So getting on for 5 days afterwards and brown is still PM and the Lib Dems seem to be holding all the cards.
The Lib Dems were slaughtered because they had crap policies yet they are holding out to try to get the other 2 parties to bend to there way of thinking with PR seeming to be the main issue.
Brown had said he may step down if he gets his way( well thats f***ing big of him)considering he lost big time and needs the Scottish votes to prop him up.
And then we get Alistair Campbell (the lying twat)and F***ing Mandleson(the lying cheating twat) on the TV announcing what should be done.Who the f*** do they think they are as no one has voted for them. God isn't democracy wonderful.
 

mamoo

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I think I'm at the point of 'The tories got the most seats, put them in!' I don't get why we need all this coalition bull**** when someone has more votes than someone else. Don't even get me started on Brown's "I'll step down, but not yet." ****, **** sake I'm really starting to hate this election.
 

Capt.Marion

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As an American, this is a pretty neat read. I'm glad to see that the party system doesn't screw things up badly only in the US... it's a shame no one reads ole George Washington's farewell speech today.
 
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Nestor Makhno

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The fact is that whoever gets into power, none of them can say they received a sole mandate to run the country. Nobody alone will be able to do something which is supported by more people than oppose it.

The Lib Dems are doing something they have been itching to do for years, which is use a coalition to impose electoral reform (at the very least a referendum on reform). they can hardly be blamed ofr using their moment to get maximum benefit.

Similarly you can hardly blame Campbell and Mandelson for doing what they have always done and that is struggle to keep Labour in, no matter what. Campbell, in particular, does what his TV alter ego, Malcolm Tucker, did - which is bully, cajole, spin... whatever it takes to keep Labour in. They can hardly be blamed for that. The fact that the media lap up this kind of behaviour and encourage it (it was the media who made Nick Clegg look like a king-in-waiting pre-election, not the man himself).

OK, the tory press are *****ing and whining about the 'only elected candidate' and they kind of have a point but, tbh, poshboy and his Eton claque are so incompetent that they can't even snatch victory out of the hands of a thoroughly discreditted Labour government. A few months of minority government would see them booted out anyway once they got in and dropped all this touchy-feely, 'Hey I have a friend who's working class...or is it black?' BS that Cameron doles out.

So I reckon that the Lib Dems, being the only party that even partly gives a toss about civil liberties, are quite right to maximise their position and I hope they do get some kind of reform pushed thru, if only to mess up the tories, who I have always hated, and Labour, who I have come to hate.
 

Psycho_Sam

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Maybe im a synic but all the main political parties seem to do is badmouth each other and point out what they have done wrong. Its such a negative way of self promotion, I want to vote for somebody who will do a good job, not just the least incompetant.

Also, why can parties never seem to agree on any issues? Unless its the mass murder of civilians in which they are all falling over each other to condemn they have to argue the toss about every little thing.


I think the problem is that they all seem scared of saying, you know what so and so did a great job on such an area. However we would like to strengthen this area whilst continuing their good work on blah. The whole point of going into politics is meant to be to serve your country, not your own ego and to always get one up over the opposition.


So in summary, work together u bluddy bar-stewards!