British election
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Oh so i see if you even mention the immigration issue then you are a bigot.
No i know where we stand then.
There is nothing else i can say to you mate.As i'm totaly wrong and you are totaly right.
lolz, ten times more than the entire world population
(or a thousand times, depending on what billions are to you)
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Pretty much, why do you think all the parties have been avoiding the issue like the plague?
Yeh ok i maybe did make a slight mistake in my figures.
But then i was more than slightly pissed off at the fact i seem to be thought of as a bigot and a racist from my comments about immigration.This from people who know nothing about me but seem to think i read the sun and vote BNP.
Well i'm sorry to disappoint you but i am neither a bigot or a racist.In fact the only bigoted views i see on here are from the anti racist crowd with their every one who dares bring up the Big I issue is bigoted and therefore a racist.
As to the that woman who was called a bigot.I would be fascinated to hear what exactly people who agree with what Gordon said, think was bigoted in what she said.
Come on guys fill me in.
What is so bigoted about what she said?
because according to chambers a Bigot is
But then i was more than slightly pissed off at the fact i seem to be thought of as a bigot and a racist from my comments about immigration.This from people who know nothing about me but seem to think i read the sun and vote BNP.
Well i'm sorry to disappoint you but i am neither a bigot or a racist.In fact the only bigoted views i see on here are from the anti racist crowd with their every one who dares bring up the Big I issue is bigoted and therefore a racist.
As to the that woman who was called a bigot.I would be fascinated to hear what exactly people who agree with what Gordon said, think was bigoted in what she said.
Come on guys fill me in.
What is so bigoted about what she said?
because according to chambers a Bigot is
Which given the fact that we have heard one discussion with her which rules out the top part and from what i saw she listened to what he said and when he spouted his usual bollocks she wasn't happy.
so, english people voted for the same faggots that ruin your country since 40 years ? gg...not anything diffrent from any other main european country...STAND IN LINE PEOPLE !!! 
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I know there was some flap about what she said, but at the time I wasn't really paying any attention to the British election.
What exactly did she say?
The most notable thing she said was "These Eastern Europeans, where are they coming from?"
Hmm...China?
That woman managed to draw a direct line from the economy to "Where are all these Eastern Europeans flocking from?" in her talk with the then PM.
OK - maybe she was a racist, rather than a bigot, according to the definition Gautrek so helpfully provided. Anyone who thinks that the country's problems (economic or otherwise) are caused by immigrants is, at best, woefully lacking in critical faculties.
Careful readers might notice that I have never, on these forums, accused any other forum member of reading the Sun or voting BNP. If anyone didn't see that they should read more carefully in future, please.
One really positive thing to come out of the election was the BNP's showing itself up as a party of complete idiots. Their website administrator did a bunk the day before the election and their PR guy decided to sue Nick Griffin - I really could not stop laughing when I read about that. Also the pretend soldier was another media coup by the 'master race'.
Truly hysterical.
OK - maybe she was a racist, rather than a bigot, according to the definition Gautrek so helpfully provided. Anyone who thinks that the country's problems (economic or otherwise) are caused by immigrants is, at best, woefully lacking in critical faculties.
Careful readers might notice that I have never, on these forums, accused any other forum member of reading the Sun or voting BNP. If anyone didn't see that they should read more carefully in future, please.
One really positive thing to come out of the election was the BNP's showing itself up as a party of complete idiots. Their website administrator did a bunk the day before the election and their PR guy decided to sue Nick Griffin - I really could not stop laughing when I read about that. Also the pretend soldier was another media coup by the 'master race'.
Truly hysterical.
Talking of the BNP, did anyone hear about that BNP MP who beat an Asian guy up in the street on election day? Good judgement there
here you go mate.
See if you see racism and bigotry in this
1141 BST: While on a walkabout in Rochdale, Greater Manchester, Mr Brown speaks to Mrs Duffy.
Gillian Duffy: How are you going to get us out of all this debt, Gordon?
PM: Well, deficit reduction plan, cut the debt by half over the next four years, we've got the plans, they've been set out to do it. Look, I was the person who came in...
GD: Three main things what I was drummed in when I was a child was education, health service and looking after people who are vulnerable.
PM: And that's what...
GD: But there's too many people now who aren't vulnerable but they can claim and people who are vulnerable can't get claim, can't get it.
PM: But they shouldn't be doing that. There's no life on the dole for people any more. If you're unemployed you've got to go back to work. It's six months...
GD: You can't say anything about the immigrants because you're saying that you're... all these Eastern Europeans what are coming in, where are they flocking from?
PM: A million people come from Europe but a million people, British people, have gone into Europe. You do know that there's a lot of British people staying in Europe as well?
Their conversation continues for a few more minutes, with Mrs Duffy mentioning university tuition fees and her grandchildren, before Mr Brown congratulates her on her choice of red jacket. He tells Mrs Duffy to take care, before they part.
Yet people on here see this a bigoted and racist.
HMMM funny that.
Err no mate.
She never made any connection to the economy and immigration.In fact here is the sentence you must mean.
Maybe you need to get your eyes tested.Or stop having the knee jerk reaction as soon as the I word is mentioned.You can be against Immigration and not be racist mate.
Just as i disagree with the Unite union for it pointless and idiotic strikes.but that doesn't make me a Thatcherite who wants to smash the unions.
I also wish they would sort the banks out but that doesn't make me an Anarchist
Also did i say you made a comment about sun readers and BNP voters.
look what i have found.Its a labour think tank from a while ago looking in to the immigration issue.
So please explain how these people who are on benefits or not working are helping the country out as i'm at a loss to see the logic.How are they paying for any health care they may need in our NHS.Who is going to give them a pension when they retire.
Oh thats right people like me are supporting them.You know the ones who are still working and paying my taxes.
But to just allow people to migrate here with no sort of checks or bar to the ones we don't need or want is just plain wrong.
There is also much doubt over the supposed benefits that migration has given the country anyway.
Bigoted and racist? Not especially, no.
Well, maybe. I don't necessarily see the connection to the 'Eastern Europeans' as none of them are on the top ten list for worst offenders for unemployment / social housing, so calling out the 'Eastern Europeans' could either be that she doesn't like Poles and Romanians particularly, but otherwise it seems just sort of pointless and random.
But then again ... since, until you get to the bottom of that list, none of the nations on it are stereotypically 'white' or 'European,' it could certainly seem racist / bigoted if she'd mentioned any one of them, so maybe she was trying way too hard to avoid seeming racist, and it's the lady protesting too much. So, I don't really know what to think, but I don't see anything inherently wrong with it, aside from the irrelevance of the Eastern Europeans.
As for the Somalis ... Jesus Effing Christ. I know EXACTLY what that list is talking about. Back in the late 90's the Catholic League helped a bunch of them come over to the US, settled them in Lewiston, Maine. BAD mistake. They felt that, since they'd been given a free ride that far, they should continue to get one. Perfect example of this: back when I used to sell cars, a Somali came in to buy the most expensive car on the lot. (That's what he asked for, it happened to be a 2003 - brand new at hte time - L.L. Bean edition SUbaru Outback.) He wanted to pay $360 a month - no more. He had REALLY bad credit, but I could get him financed ... at about (iirc) $700+ a month. He just flat out could not understand why I was not willing to give him the car for just barely half of what it should cost him. When he left, he was calling the police, and was threatening to have the Catholic League come after our dealership. So, yeah, I sympathize with y'all there.
Talking of the BNP, did anyone hear about that BNP MP who beat an Asian guy up in the street on election day? Good judgement there
there are no BNP MPs but are you talking about the BNP party candidate who, while canvassing in Barking, was confronted and threatened by 2 asian youths, one of which he attacked after the kid spat in his face?
if you detest the BNP propoganda technique of distorting facts in an attempt to create an unfair picture of certain people, then you have to rise above it yourself and report the facts of the matter honestly.
irrespective of what you think of the people involved.
SOOOO True. Here in the US, just because I am against Illegal immigration (because of its economic impact) does not make me a racist.
Oh I hear you there. Immigrants (no particular group) occasionally come into my flooring store and try to do the same thing. They try to argue with you and really disrupt all the other customers, trying to get you to sell them something expensive at way below what we even pay for it as if they are haggling over the price of a chicken in the market square.
Precisely, I don't feel that immigrants are stealing our jobs, they just work harder than us. We should respect them for that, not detest them and try to deport them 'just because'.
I don't think any reasonable person wants to deport the legal immigrants without due process, and for a valid reason - and there are several that could come into play. It's the ILLEGAL immigrants. The ones who are - by definition - committing a crime by being here, yet are still able to take advantage of all the same social programs that citizens and taxpayers - who fund those programs - have available to them.
As for 'takin our jerbs,' ... it's remarkable how, when it becomes more costly to break the law rather than hire legal residents (whether citizens or legal immigrants), the jobs are generally filled within hours / days by those who are legally entitled to work.