Those "internetz" are based on something you know. Germans did use armor in WW1, it weighted 12-18kg, Harder? Maybe. Heavier? Definetly. They had no such armor in Stalingrad btw. Steel core was considered AP ammo, owright.
p.s. How many troops were issued steel core ammo? How much of that ammo was sub-standart? And dont tell me your fairy tales of everything being top quality.
p.p.s. NKVD wouldnt allow serial production of SN-42 if it was ineffective and these guys knew more about war that you could ever know.
p.p.p.s. Dont trust fanbois, especially the unus one.
You are pretty immature adult you know, focusing more on insulting/being smug/etc than doing anything else. Pretending not to notice facts, talking only about something that will benefit you ignoring anything else, its typical behavior for a troll or a fanboi.You really have no clue what you're talking about, and it doesn't help that you can't understand what others are saying either. It's like talking to a door. It's often refered to as the teenage syndrom, so don't worry you'll get over it.
Repetition: The 9mm m.E. ammunition would penetrate 2mm of steel test plate, which was atleast 100 BHN harder than the SN42 breast plates. (It has nothing to do with WW1 German breast plates, which came up because of a reading comprehension problem on your part) In effect the 9mm m.E. ammunition would likely penetrate 3mm of the type of steel used to manufacture the SN42.
Oh, and m.E. ammunition was std. issue by 1942. And regarding quality, don't talk of something you know nothing about, you'll just end up losing face infront of everyone, which is rather silly. Keep in mind that I own and sell the types of ammunition we're talking about in this thread, while you just read about it on the internet, remember that.
Anyway I'm not going to start an argument with you again, as an adult that would be rather silly of me.
You may continue with your name calling from here'on if you wish, but you will get no further reply.
You are pretty immature adult you know, focusing more on insulting/being smug/etc than doing anything else. Pretending not to notice facts, talking only about something that will benefit you ignoring anything else, its typical behavior for a troll or a fanboi.
If it was facts and history you were talking about you would've took into account that a lot of sources say that SN-42 stopped SMG bullets at 100m, that included MP-40, if its standart ammunition was SO effective then why did soviets use SN-42?
If it was facts and history you were talking about you would've took into account that a lot of sources say that SN-42 stopped SMG bullets at 100m, that included MP-40, if its standart ammunition was SO effective then why did soviets use SN-42?
The pictures of Soviets using that body armor look like reserve troops stationed around Moscow in their spiffy new uniforms. The second picture of the guy behind the brick wall taking cover is a staged propaganda picture, there are lots of them out there.
47,000 pieces only for pictures? Boy, it's must be world's expensive photomob.
Hmmmm, doesnt look like it would be terribly effective in urban combat, going off of some of unus' data, and due to the very short ranges and multiple engagement angles.
Im pretty sure it was definitely useful for demo or minefield duty though, as well as morale. But since we dont really have any of these things ingame, i say just make it cosmetic for hero engineers. It would look cool and add variety, without affecting gameplay.
Initially it looked promising against lead cored pistol ammunition, and that at rather long range (100 to 125 m), but as soon as steel cored ammunition became normal it was more of a hazard to wear than a means of protection, only serving to weigh the wearer down and reduce his agility.
I wouldn't mind if it actually protected the wearer abit, making him abit less vulnerable to grenade explosions for example.
some 20 Million Soviets cycled through the Red Army during the war.
As in you had a better chance witnessing a cavalry charge than you did a piece of that body armor if only 40k were produced.
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and the armor would only be for the engineers, which is like 2 per map. And only for those who unlocked it. And nobody upgrades the engineer, so you'd be lucky to see the armor.
Yes, SN-42s were used, but mainly by combat engineers to protect from fragments and melee weapons in CQC.
But the AVT-40 was also not put into production till 1943 so it's just as farby.
jaegerplatoon.net said:AVT-40 automatic rifle was accepted to manufacturing in May of 1942 and the first weapons came out of production line already in July of the same year. The reason allowing advance as fast as this was rather simple - the changes required for making SVT-40 select-fire automatic were only minor. Only real changes happened in trigger mechanism. While in SVT-40 the safety switch had only two settings - (semi auto) fire and safe, in AVT-40 the switch had also full auto setting for automatic fire. However, likely AVT-40 were used mostly in semi auto mode, as full automatic fire was quite difficult to control and durability proved to be an issue. All the reliability issues of SVT-40 were still included to the design and now the automatic fire caused additional problems. The main visual difference between SVT-40 and AVT-40 is in their muzzle brakes. Muzzle brake of AVT-40 has only 4 large vents - 2 in each side. In addition new stronger stock version was manufactured for AVT-40. Sometimes AVT-40 muzzle brakes and/or AVT-40 stocks can be found in SVT-40 rifles, but these might be results of later repairs and arsenal refurb work. The Soviets stopped manufacturing of AVT-40 in summer of 1943.