Mount & Blade

[SiFi]

Honestly, it's $18 or so USD, so why not get it? The mods out there make it so worth it And when you succeed in covering your sword and right arm in blood, you'll thank me

@ Strother: Have you tried ordering them to "hold this position"? Use the number keys. Also, f1-f5 select which groups you're talking to.

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

No I don't usually bother to tell them to hold the position because sometimes the enemy are musketeers and if my soldiers held their ground they would be demolished, it is better to rush them and get in close to where they can't use their guns.

 

[Donut]

That means shields, and damn good body armor. Can you flank(I just started last night, dont know much yet )? That would allow you to split their fire power, and if you have archers in reserve, you can use heavily armored cavalry to distract, while archers hit from read flank when musketeers turn to fire on cavalry(IDFK! Probably not though...).

 

[[CoR]MiccyNarc]

Chill out dude. You have to admit the graphics are not very good, but we're still enjoying the game and not bashing it because of the graphics. So calm down and get off your high horse.

 

[Donut]

Chill out dude. You have to admit the graphics are not very good, but we're still enjoying the game and not bashing it because of the graphics. So calm down and get off your high horse.

Huh? Who the hell's on a high horse? LOL Id LOVE to know where that comes from! Its pretty ok game, I really like how you chose your own angle of attack.

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

I usually don't choose any angle of attack. My main setup is to have archers and calvary. The calvary is to keep their calvary off my archers and to thin the enemy out a bit. The archers will pick off (quite effectivly I might add) the straglers and the normal infantry that rush the archers or calvary. My armies almost never have any normal footroops (except for the Pirates mod because horses are hard to come by).

There are times when you need to flank the enemy. I flank when the large portion of the enemy is archers, I send my archers up against them to distract and I tell my cavalry to follow me and we flank them behind the hills and rush up on them, but you WILL NEED a shield for this or else you won't get within 50 feet of the archers. Then the overwhelming numbers of calvary will break into them and prevent them from firing, and then you slice them up. Another flank move I do is by myself. If the enemy consists of many types of troops I will order my men to charge and I will flank in behind their archers and lance them to prevent them from picking off my horsemen, then I work my way to the enemy calvary and I lance them, this also works with the bow and arrow, but don't engage the enemy archers at close range with a bow, they will get you every time.

If you get the battlesizer thing, you won't worry to much about flanking, the enemy forces and your forces balance out and you must use your skills to tip the the battle in your favor. Perhaps if they had bigger battle maps, it might give you enough time to coordinate an attack and place your soldiers. O yeah one last hint, if you are facing overwhelming odds or large numbers of calvary and you have mostly infantry, try to find a tall hill and tell your men to hold the position, the enemy will have to basically walk up, making them perfect targets, another good spot is a river, you can put your infantry in it to slow down the calvary which reduces their effectiveness, and then put your archers on the opposite bank to fire on the waterlogged horses while you take your calvary and flank from the sides.

 

[Donut]

Havent tried horse archery yet, but lancings NOT easy! All in the timing.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

Havent tried horse archery yet, but lancings NOT easy! All in the timing.

It's not that hard... to couch the lance and do lot's of damage, you don't have to click. simply ride as fast as you can, and you couch the lance automatically. Then you simply try to connect the tip with the victim

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

After a bit of trying couching is EASY and is the best way to kill people. If you miss hitting a calvary guy quickly aim for his horse! Horse archery got boring after a while, I was just to good at it. I was playing Pirate mod but I invested in a caravan that was heading to a spanish town so I escorted it, to protect my investment and I forgot that I was at a personal war with the spanish so when my convoy ship reached there I got a message saying it was captured and destroyed and the message pops up like 4 times in a row and the game crashes no matter what I do, so I can't play that anymore unless I start a new game...no thanks.

I'm currently doing the Storymod. It seems really deep and I'm loving all the features.

 

[Donut]

It's not that hard... to couch the lance and do lot's of damage, you don't have to click. simply ride as fast as you can, and you couch the lance automatically. Then you simply try to connect the tip with the victim

THATS THE HARD PART! I miss a hell of alot.

 

[Bolt]

I've made a little clip with moments of couching, 5 mb. Maybe it could help you..
http://mumrik.hotmail.ru/Couche.wmv

 

[Donut]

Uh huh. So all Im doing "wrong". apparently, is trying to USE the lance, instead of letting it just sit there... Will give it a go.

 

[SiFi]

Yup, pretty much. To get the full effect of all the momentum of you, your armour, your horse, and your horses armour (if any) transmitted through the lance, you need to have it braced against you (couched). Horray for stirrups, invented 2000 years after they should have been

You should find that most infantry are put down in one hit from a couched lance. Cavalry are tougher, as couching someone who's riding away is pretty pointless.

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

The only way to lance the calvary is if they are coming at you or you are perpendicular to them. Sometimes if you are fast enough and they are slowing down you can hit them hard enough to kill but if you are both nearly the same speed don't bother with it you won't hurt him.

I'm trying to decide which horse I want, I'm a lancer and I like to use one handed swords. I currently have a heavy Courser with like 10 speed and 11 menouver (maybe 9 speed? I think its 10). I'm just curious whether I should get a fast horse so I can get a lot of power behind my lance, or should I go with a heavy warhorse (I'm playing storymod so there are a bunch of heavy horses). The heavy horses arn't neary as fast and menueverable, yet it has MUCH better armor which is good for when I'm in a tight situation and have to pull out my sword, and it also has great charging power in case I miss the guy with the lance, I can just run him over. So which is better for lancing? War horse or Speed horse?

 

[SiFi]

I think that the charge bonus affects *all* attacks, and it's usually higher on the heavier armoured horses. Of course, speed helps as well. Personally, I've found that anything other than the armoured warhorses don't last too long with my usual tactics I'd say a spirited charger would be best: high armour and charge, and better than normal speed and manuverability.

Which kind of one-handed sword? The watered-steel nomad saber is a joy to use, but theres something to be said for a nice, heavy axe as well

A note for anyone playing the extended play mod: SEA RAIDERS ARE BRUTAL! They are much more deadly than in vanilla, *and* now have cavalry in their group. Plus they run about twice their previous speed. I've lost so many of my attempted army of sword sisters to them that it's frustrating me

 

[Donut]

I like the stats on Heavy Courser myself. Will get one when I can(IF I can, dunno about buying it yet). BTW, YAY!

 

[[5.SS]Strother]

Congratulations.

The courser is a great horse for the money. But once you get enough money you gotta get the charger. I actually got the heavey charger for Story Mod. I'm doing the relic mission and I can't find the band of Black Knights that have the relic, where are they usually at?

 

[Bolt]

Those bastards are patroling near Four way's inn and they are REALLY strong (expect 40 knights). From my experience of fighting dark knights, i can tell that you must have some crossbowmen/archers, which will stand somewhere on the hill, and about 25-30 knights. And almost all of them will die for sure.. By the way, i'm using heavy cathapract horse for charging right into the enemy with my lance couched and i'm not dissapointed. Good horsie.
Donut, glad that i've helped. )

 

[SiFi]

Also, get a weapon besides your lance that does piercing or bludgeoning damage to use against them. Either of those types of damage are better at getting through heavy armour than slashing.

I've found that sometimes it's a good idea to go in with a lance and shield, but sometimes I take along a crossbow/bow, and have lots of ammo stored in the chest. Lancing them is so much easier when their horses are dead

 

[Bolt]

I dunno.. When a horde of 30 black riders charge you, you can make 2, maybe 3 shots before you got smashed. I'm using bent spear (tried to find normal spear, no luck) and my fishshield as main weapons, and light crossbow and some bolts as secondary.
I once forgot to change my two-handed sword with my spear and went into battle with this toothpick (i mean, the sword). Man, it's a such creepy feeling when you can't make couched damage!