Hello Chaps, first of all, this is all so far RUMOR and so the facts may change upon release, however i feel it warrants some discussion. Bear that in mind before you shout me down.
Now I am not a fan of balance over authenticity and the following things that are perhaps in the full game are directly cases of balance trumping history. Not previously something I was worried about for RO but now from what i hear i am.
Remember we don't need 'Class Balance' what we will have in the game is 'Team Balance' where the Germans may be weaker in SMG's they have the edge in their MG's for example.
From what we have seen so far it appears that the MP40/II the Dual-Magazine MP40 is in RO, and once unlocked is a permanant feature for the gun. I am sure i am not alone in feeling that this incredibly rare item (less prduced than the 7,000+ MKb42 (H) certainly) made for troop trials and rejected as being unsuitable due to jamming/sensitivity has no place within our Red Orchestra 2 game. I am sure we would much rather have a captured PPSh41 than this gun in our game (and certain unlock options in the menu point to this being a possibility)
Saddle Drum MG34, the Dual Magazine saddle drum for the MG34 was not a Heer issued item, it was restricted almost exclusively to the Luftwaffe, and even then was produced in limited numbers and discontinued because of the Luftwaffe primarily using the MG15. The reason it was not issued to the army was because using it necessitated a completely different rear plate to accomodate the drum. I have heard that this item has been seen in gameplay videos? So if it's not in RO2 don't crucify me. Surely however a better unlock would be a Belt Feed (the actual most common way to employ the MG34)
Permanent Bayonets, everyone wants these detachable surely.
Nagant Revolver. Silencer, not an item that was seen on the frontline. This has been much discussed.
Now, i have the following Caveat with these items, the Hero class, it would certainly be acceptable to me to have these items restricted to a Single soldier on the team, the Hero class could feasibly have that 1 rare gun, have friends in high places to lend him a silencer, or have scavanged a MG34 and saddle drums from a crashed Heinkel, this way these a-historical items still get to be used in the game, but not in a way that affects the gameplay or authenticity. Plus if TW has already made these items then that effort is not wasted.
Perhaps this is already the case? I am in no way attempting to be rumour mongering or posting un-true information. At any rate i feel personally that if every soldier in a few weeks has a MP40/II that my enjoyment of RO will be much reduced.
I also notice in Ramm-Jagers post that there is some server options to limit certain weapons. If this is the case and it is fully customizable in terms of what weapons to which classes and which unlocks are availalbe than the 'Realism' servers can have the guns as they were and as such there will be no-issue.
Now I am not a fan of balance over authenticity and the following things that are perhaps in the full game are directly cases of balance trumping history. Not previously something I was worried about for RO but now from what i hear i am.
Remember we don't need 'Class Balance' what we will have in the game is 'Team Balance' where the Germans may be weaker in SMG's they have the edge in their MG's for example.
From what we have seen so far it appears that the MP40/II the Dual-Magazine MP40 is in RO, and once unlocked is a permanant feature for the gun. I am sure i am not alone in feeling that this incredibly rare item (less prduced than the 7,000+ MKb42 (H) certainly) made for troop trials and rejected as being unsuitable due to jamming/sensitivity has no place within our Red Orchestra 2 game. I am sure we would much rather have a captured PPSh41 than this gun in our game (and certain unlock options in the menu point to this being a possibility)
Saddle Drum MG34, the Dual Magazine saddle drum for the MG34 was not a Heer issued item, it was restricted almost exclusively to the Luftwaffe, and even then was produced in limited numbers and discontinued because of the Luftwaffe primarily using the MG15. The reason it was not issued to the army was because using it necessitated a completely different rear plate to accomodate the drum. I have heard that this item has been seen in gameplay videos? So if it's not in RO2 don't crucify me. Surely however a better unlock would be a Belt Feed (the actual most common way to employ the MG34)
Permanent Bayonets, everyone wants these detachable surely.
Nagant Revolver. Silencer, not an item that was seen on the frontline. This has been much discussed.
Now, i have the following Caveat with these items, the Hero class, it would certainly be acceptable to me to have these items restricted to a Single soldier on the team, the Hero class could feasibly have that 1 rare gun, have friends in high places to lend him a silencer, or have scavanged a MG34 and saddle drums from a crashed Heinkel, this way these a-historical items still get to be used in the game, but not in a way that affects the gameplay or authenticity. Plus if TW has already made these items then that effort is not wasted.
Perhaps this is already the case? I am in no way attempting to be rumour mongering or posting un-true information. At any rate i feel personally that if every soldier in a few weeks has a MP40/II that my enjoyment of RO will be much reduced.
I also notice in Ramm-Jagers post that there is some server options to limit certain weapons. If this is the case and it is fully customizable in terms of what weapons to which classes and which unlocks are availalbe than the 'Realism' servers can have the guns as they were and as such there will be no-issue.
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