TE-Fallenfighters SPAWN TO SPAWN, BABY

[Raneman]

Fallen fighters on TE is nothing but spawn warfare. You never leave your spawn. You set foot on spawn, and suddenly you get shot from 32 different windows at the enemy spawn facing yours. There is no cover. No one does objectives. It's basically a shooting gallery for everyone but the people who actually leave spawn.

 

[Turnbacca]

Fallen fighters on TE is nothing but spawn warfare. You never leave your spawn. You set foot on spawn, and suddenly you get shot from 32 different windows at the enemy spawn facing yours. There is no cover. No one does objectives. It's basically a shooting gallery for everyone but the people who actually leave spawn.

Welcome to the most brutal war in history? :IS2:

 

[Pig]

Welcome to Red Orchestra, ah yeah you can win with team play. even against the 32 different windows

 

[negocromn]

map is clearly 8v8 or less players material, 32v32 or even 16v16 means youll have multiple people shooting you from all sorts of angles anywhere you try to move.

 

[BlackLabel]

people stay back way too much and squadleaders dont use enough smoke...there is NO communication on pubby servers so what you expect ?

also WELCOME TO RO. :IS2:

 

[Felix Ostheim]

Exaggeration...again folks we're talking about public servers here, you're not really going to get an uber realistic teamplay experience without some people you already know, planning & preparation etc. This is what clans and realism units are for.

 

[vanelle]

Heavy suppression on the windows works quite effective.
And a sniper should look for MG carrying units.

I had some good plays on the map altho it is not the easiest one.
Team work is a must.

 

[Baine]

map is clearly 8v8 or less players material, 32v32 or even 16v16 means youll have multiple people shooting you from all sorts of angles anywhere you try to move.

Welcome to Red Orchestra, ah yeah you can win with team play. even against the 32 different windows

THere you go. This is RO not CoD. You have to overcome the odds with teamplay, be it flanking with several guys or advancing through smoke.

 

[Black Valor]

If only there was some way to keep the other team from seeing you... maybe an item of some sort?

 

[Moyako]

If only there was some way to keep the other team from seeing you... maybe an item of some sort?

I see what you did there...

 

[Sheps]

I think you'll find that if one person goes for the objective, 2 or 3 might follow. Getting the fountain is pretty easy and pretty well covered but going any further than that is just suicide.

I'd like the map much more if the map didn't lag my PC.

 

[Raneman]

Teamplay would be more effective if there were an easy way to communicate on public servers. Say, indicators above people's heads that are like "THIS IS YOUR SL FOLLOW HIM" and squad level VOIP.

 

[Rumpullpus]

i like TE-fallenfighters, its just obvious the map still needs to be worked on. theres only 1 semi safe way to get to the middle and it takes FOREVER, and chances are you get shot anyway. needs to be some more roadbocks on the side giving some people cover from the flanks right out of the spawn. because right now, ya the map is basicly "spawn camp to victory"

 

[NoxNoctum]

Fallenfighters has always been that way (it's an RO1 map). You're playing on pub servers too. I woudln't count on the map being changed either it's

1) A remake of a RO1 map
2) A copy of an exact location.

They're not gonna throw in some random buildings, people here (including me ) will throw a fit .

Check out Iron Crescendo, it works out a bit diffidently there .

But if you're on a team where people are using smoke efficiently it's a differnt story.

Also don't be afraid to move up slowly. I sneak around o the edge of the map, pick off anyone along the side that's covering the angle I want to run to the cap, and then sprint to the cap and lay low. Usually works pretty well .

 

[Moyako]

Another thing is the beta doesn't have a SP campaing, this means no training at all.

Because of this many new players who never played RO:OST, are playing the game as a gun and run shooter.

Remember that this issue used to happen a lot during RO:OST free weekends and rebates when hordes of ROplayers were runing around crying because that "game sux, no crosshair and too hard to kill someone!!11one!!"

 

[Rumpullpus]

Fallenfighters has always been that way (it's an RO1 map). You're playing on pub servers too. I woudln't count on the map being changed either it's

1) A remake of a RO1 map
2) A copy of an exact location.

They're not gonna throw in some random buildings, people here (including me ) will throw a fit .

Check out Iron Crescendo, it works out a bit diffidently there .

But if you're on a team where people are using smoke efficiently it's a differnt story.

Also don't be afraid to move up slowly. I sneak around o the edge of the map, pick off anyone along the side that's covering the angle I want to run to the cap, and then sprint to the cap and lay low. Usually works pretty well .

well all im sayin is that if the majority of games on a map end up in mass spawn campin that usually means the map wasnt designed correctly. i dont care if its of a real place or a completely made up one. i dont like spawn campers and the map currently encourages it.

 

[teemu92]

The answer, play with friends and learn to use smoke grenades & artillery effectively. + in the map the mounted MG positions are amazing, i got a 14 killstreak on one yesterday.

 

[NightriderAOF]

well all im sayin is that if the majority of games on a map end up in mass spawn campin that usually means the map wasnt designed correctly. i dont care if its of a real place or a completely made up one. i dont like spawn campers and the map currently encourages it.

If you sit in your spawn area and camp that ridiculously long space between spawns, you will lose very, very quickly.

How does that encourage sitting in spawn?

I think it's more of a matter that a lot of people new to RO don't grasp the fundamentals yet, or might be too afraid of getting shot while going for the cap.

 

[Makino]

The awnser is Tanks and SLs. Without a good tanker covering and providing cover i agree its pretty unmanageable to attack.

Also, use the tunnels as they help a lot.

 

[Rumpullpus]

If you sit in your spawn area and camp that ridiculously long space between spawns, you will lose very, very quickly.

How does that encourage sitting in spawn?

I think it's more of a matter that a lot of people new to RO don't grasp the fundamentals yet, or might be too afraid of getting shot while going for the cap.

well as an example i will explain 1 round i remember today.

playin as the russians and on our side south from the number 1 spawn area we had 2 panzers and atlest 6-7 infantry sitting just to the side of the little allyway there destroying anyone and everyone that even got close to leaving the spawn area. i think we managed to round up 4-5 men to try and push them out with smoke as cover but it failed everytime becuase of the tanks.

now that was an extreme case that i have yet to see again but it is easy for both sides to box eachother in their own spawns. infact right now its easier for the teams to box eachother in the spawns then it is to take objs.