Well no, I was trying to be polite to you. You didn't reply to several of my points until two posts after I made them, so naturally I had to ask about them again out of order to get your attention. Your last post just comes off as pretentious as by trying to highlight my lack of structure you just emphasize your own. Really, is there any need for this?
I replied to your questions as you asked them. You replying to my replies as if they were completely different points is why I replied to all four in the same post.
Anyway, we've exhausted the "in my opinion this is not/cheating" point, so let me address the only other thing you've said. "Effectively having infinite ammo" - no, not infinite at all.
That is why I said "
effectively" infinite. Which it is.
What is the difference between ten thousand, one million, two million, and infinite bullpup rounds in the game? None whatsoever. And the reason is a player will never fire all of them in a game. So while one million rounds isn't an
infinite amount of rounds, it is
effectively infinite.
There doesn't even need to be a million rounds in the game. The numbers are much much smaller. The be effectively infinite, something only needs to be available when needed.
Same thing with stockpiling weapons. If someone stacks 6 xbows then they have a bolt every time they need it. Effectively infinite ammo. If someone stacks half a dozen bullpups then they have
for that wave, which is all that matters, infinite ammo. After all, that is why they are stacking weapons. So they will have firepower whenever they need it during the wave.
Having infinite ammo doesn't mean an ammo box that holds tens of thousands of rounds. It just means stacking and using weapons that magically hold a maximum load of ammo so there is always ammo when needed.
At first you said 10 rockets for the LAW and 40 shells for the shotgun, then you said "hundreds of rounds", and now you're claiming "effectively infinite."
There is just no excuse to gradually increase the amount you exaggerate with each post unless you're just trying to compensate for a weak point, which it is.
I didn't. Let's go over the examples in the order you stated.
"10 rockets for the LAW" LAW holds more than 10 rockets, yes? I don't know offhand and I didn't care to check. So if someone throws a LAW on the deck it holds more than 10 rockets.
"40 shells for the shotgun" Shotgun holds more than 40 shells, yes? I don't know offhand and I didn't care to check. So if someone throws a shotgun on the deck it holds more than 40 shells.
"hundreds of rounds" Bullpup & SCAR hold more than a few hundred rounds, yes? Again, I don't know offhand and I didn't care to check so I said hundreds. So if someone throws a bullpup, SCAR, and/or multiples of those then they have hundreds if not thousands of rounds at their disposal.
That is also why I mentioned drums for the AA12, tanks for the flamer, bolts for the xbow, and I could have mentioned grenades as well. By stacking weapons on the deck the player eliminates the ammo limitation.
Again, effectively infinite ammo doesn't mean millions of shots (for a lack of a better term). It just means whenever a person needs ammo they have it. 5 aa12s, holding one and four on the deck, is effectively infinite ammo.
Because spawnselling/whatever you'll call it does not break the "rules" of KF (there have to be rules before you call something cheating, and as far as I can see there aren't any ordinances), it isn't even that.
I didn't say "spawn selling" broke any rules. I said it was cheating. You asked me if I had a problem with that and I said yes.
Just to be clear. By "spawn selling", I mean choosing a perk, spawning with the weapon, changing perks, suicide, and then respawning to get multiple top weapons for free.
Spawning as a sharpie, playing a level to sell the xbow at the end of a level, and then switching to another perk isn't cheating.
What are you left saying, honestly? That you're angry that people can give themselves leeway to a situation that if they play skillfully doesn't arise anyway.
Not angry. Why would I be angry? I play the way I think is best. Others can play the way they think is best. I think stacking weapons on the deck and spawnselling to get multiple free weapons is cheating. You may disagree. That's fine as well.
To me, cheating would be exploiting something like the old trader-glitch on biohazard or getting on top of west london with the fence. To use ammo that your weapons spawn with to me is just smart/creative.
