Playing dead works quite well in games with prone and death messages off. Only at a distance though =).
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Playing Dead/Suicide
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This would have no effect? Why? Because if the enemy is close enough for you to need to use that then he is also close enough to make sure you're dead with a stiff painful fatal butt in teh face.
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Fake death was fun in UT when people actually fell for it. However I feel people would abuse it in RO and it would be impractical(Imagine every noob spamming fake death because it was cool or funny. Big immersion breaker imo.)
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Already been discussed, to quote myself from the last fake death thread...
People don't like feeling cheated when they are killed. We accept our deaths when they are due to enemy skill (good aim/good nade usage), tactical errors on our own part (attacking a covered doorway), or even plain bad luck (randomly thrown nades/nadespam). But when a person can kill you with no effort on their part by using such underhanded tricks, it really lessens the experience. And I know that some people will say, "well in real war you do whatever you have to in order to survive", but in real war you also don't respawn. We all know that there are people out there who kill the fun of a game by abusing features that allow them to get easy kills, all for the sake of winning (aka COD noob-tubers). Because to them, the game isn't fun - winning is, and they will ruin everyone elses fun in pursuit of victory.
People don't like feeling cheated when they are killed. We accept our deaths when they are due to enemy skill (good aim/good nade usage), tactical errors on our own part (attacking a covered doorway), or even plain bad luck (randomly thrown nades/nadespam). But when a person can kill you with no effort on their part by using such underhanded tricks, it really lessens the experience. And I know that some people will say, "well in real war you do whatever you have to in order to survive", but in real war you also don't respawn. We all know that there are people out there who kill the fun of a game by abusing features that allow them to get easy kills, all for the sake of winning (aka COD noob-tubers). Because to them, the game isn't fun - winning is, and they will ruin everyone elses fun in pursuit of victory.
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I'd be quite gratified, actually. I love servers in Ostfront without death messages, the ability to feign death would make it even more intense. I love the doubt - never knowing if you really popped someone or if they're just waiting for you to show yourself.
They're called tactics, and more possibilities and techniques are always welcome in a realistic shooter. At least in my book. The brain is the most deadly weapon - war has been all about underhanded tricks since they stopped marching at each other in formations until one side ran out of men.
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I agree with the Major.
Except we already have a game where it's possible to feign death and it isn't abused there: UT3.
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You can already kinda play dead on servers without death messages. Course I always shoot my target multiple times to make sure so don't try it against me 
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But a "dead" animation would just be retarded, no offense. Imagine what it would do to the gameplay, people would just be continually spraying dead bodies lol.
Also, waste of resources. I'd rather get my halftrack, PZIII and T-70 sooner.
.But a "dead" animation would just be retarded, no offense. Imagine what it would do to the gameplay, people would just be continually spraying dead bodies lol.
Also, waste of resources. I'd rather get my halftrack, PZIII and T-70 sooner.
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That made me LOL ... hahaha
and then the idiots start to feel bad, If you are a troll you are a wintroll
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It's not a thespian death-scene. The player just succumbs to rag-doll physics and collapses. Little bit as if it was shot minus the impact and minus the perfect timing.
As for people "spraying bodies". I don't even know what that means. Everyone only has one body, obviously, so the potential for body spraying is pretty limited to begin with. Besides, if we're overly worried about griefers (which isn't even justified in this case, as UT3 proves) there are loads of other features that should be removed as well. The biggest obviously being friendly fire, friendly player and vehicle collision, voice chat, chat...
I can see how the ability to feign death opens up new strategies that you're afraid you won't like in the game and that's fine. Your opinion. I feel the same way about bullets penetrating objects.
But let's not conjure up unrealistic horror scenarios just to make a point.
The functionality is already there.
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it was about getting an upper hand even back when the troglodytes were still using sticks and stones.
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I really don't like this idea. As has already been mentioned, You should be able to play dead as is, by staying prone, still, and not returning fire on a server w/o death messages.
One of the reasons I love RO is that I never feel like the game cheats me, every kill or death comes down to skill and or luck. This mechanic could easily ruin that. I don't want to have to buttstroke or shoot every body to ensure that I don't get shot in the back, Especially considering that its a lot harder to tell if a corpse is a corpse in game than IRL.
If this was to be implemented, the person should have to drop all weapons or be lootable and have a recovery penalty of like 15 seconds (once they leave fake death) before they can shoot, so that the mechanic is used for its purpose, to avoid death, not get cheap kills.
One of the reasons I love RO is that I never feel like the game cheats me, every kill or death comes down to skill and or luck. This mechanic could easily ruin that. I don't want to have to buttstroke or shoot every body to ensure that I don't get shot in the back, Especially considering that its a lot harder to tell if a corpse is a corpse in game than IRL.
If this was to be implemented, the person should have to drop all weapons or be lootable and have a recovery penalty of like 15 seconds (once they leave fake death) before they can shoot, so that the mechanic is used for its purpose, to avoid death, not get cheap kills.
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Well if the corpses in the game look really like corpses, it wouldnt even be that hard to see who is playing dead and who is really dead.
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*walks into a courtyard and inspects bodies*
missing leg...
missing head....
just a torso....
Freshly pressed battle dress!?
PAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAAPPAPAPAPAPAPA!
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Just hide inside of a dead body...always works for me and no one ever notices you there..well untill the body disappears or you move but for a quick hiding spot it always works. do it
-Colton Berg
-Colton Berg
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