Clanwar mutator : possible solution for Baksanvalley

[EscAz]

Ok, after a talk yesterday on IRC, we agreed that a mutator could solve the problem of points wh0ring on Baksanvalley to win.

The Winner on this map is :

- the team who cap all objectives
- the team that keep more objectives than the other
- the teams with more points at the end of the round


So our solution would be a mutator that can remove 3 things that are used to make points in public games but totally useless in clanwars :

- No points for a Cap (instead of 10 now)
- No points for MG ressuply (instead of 5 now)
- 1 point for a commander kill (instead of 3 now)



One more thing could be good to add is to keep the total amount of points even if someone drop. That way it would be really fair but I'm not sure it's possible to do as a mutator.


I'm not a modder and don't know if it'd be hard to do but that can be very usefull, and as TeamReady mutator it could become necessary in official clanwar for some maps like Baksanvalley or Arad.

 

[Suugi]

I completely agree with you EscAz. Your proposals make sense.

 

[Mike_Nomad]

Ok, after a talk yesterday on IRC, we agreed that a mutator could solve the problem of points wh0ring on Baksanvalley to win.

The Winner on this map is :

- the team who cap all objectives
- the team that keep more objectives than the other
- the teams with more points at the end of the round


So our solution would be a mutator that can remove 3 things that are used to make points in public games but totally useless in clanwars :

- No points for a Cap (instead of 10 now)
- No points for MG ressuply (instead of 5 now)
- 1 point for a commander kill (instead of 3 now)


I'm not a modder and don't know if it'd be hard to do but that can be very usefull, and as TeamReady mutator it could become necessary in official clanwar for some maps like Baksanvalley or Arad.

Please, add one other feature to it...

- Turn off Capture points completely (for Team Deathmatches & Online Practice)

Please make certain that each control has an on/off switch.

 

[[=KAS=]doomed]

Signed. [Including what Mike said as well.]

 

[MILK]

yes that very good idea.

 

[EscAz]

In case it hasn't been clear, I CAN'T do it and need someone to make it

 

[ProfessorKayos]

*signs*

 

[Tomcat_ha]

I personally think killing the squad leader should give you 2 points as he counts as 2.

 

[EscAz]

we need to get rid of point wh0ring, so no, give 2 points to commander is not a good idea. Cause some guy will just hide their commander.. etc..

Capping and points should not be linked.

 

[{Core}Steven]

Could anyone spare me a couple of hours to help get the environment setup for coding. I should hopefulyl be able to pick the language quickly and I can start coding a mutator for this.

Either reply here or [email protected]

 

[worluk]

Could anyone spare me a couple of hours to help get the environment setup for coding. I should hopefulyl be able to pick the language quickly and I can start coding a mutator for this.

Either reply here or [email protected]

catch me on IRC, i can walk you through most stuff, the changes are rather basic imo.

 

[Ronin]

*signed* totally agree with this .... also what mike says too a dm mut would be good ....

 

[Tomcat_ha]

we need to get rid of point wh0ring, so no, give 2 points to commander is not a good idea. Cause some guy will just hide their commander.. etc..

Capping and points should not be linked.

Hiding him while he counts as 2 people in a cap zone?

 

[EscAz]

yes, in the defending team. Hide him in the capzone but behind the frontline.

 

[cooperr]

signed

 

[Zetsumei]

changing the points given for things isn't what were looking for someone could still disconnect from the server.
And if you cant get points from capping or supplying the mg it only coms from killing then it would be better to use the reinforcement.

If someone makes a mut make reinforcements incremental aswell

 

[EscAz]

read better

One more thing could be good to add is to keep the total amount of points even if someone drop. That way it would be really fair but I'm not sure it's possible to do as a mutator

 

[Zetsumei]

i just dont see why one would want to continue to use score for deciding the winning factor =\. And manipulate it to basically represent reinforcements left. (heck on some maps you know beforehand that one team will get more kills due to the setting thats why one team or the other got more reinforcements)

 

[Exar]

i just dont see why one would want to continue to use score for deciding the winning factor =\. And manipulate it to basically represent reinforcements left. (heck on some maps you know beforehand that one team will get more kills due to the setting thats why one team or the other got more reinforcements)

I agree with Zetsumei.
This mutator would make the situation on maps like Baksan and Arad better, but what we really need is round draws back!
Why do you guys think ROladder still has scored of 2 points per round? We need the 5-3 and 7-1 scores back!
That way we would battle the cause of the problems, instead of the side-effects! (think about this one!)

 

[ButchCassidy]

It seems that we have been asking for somekind of match mode for ages...Surely the Devs could look into supplying an addon to the web admin section with optiions for admins to switch their server to a match mode.

It seems this is always forgotten by Developers in almost every online FPS game even though they encourage Clans and gaming groups to take up the game.

I would love to see TW set a standard here and release something that would encourage the game to be played competitively...