AA12 shotgun needs buffing

[sighpie]

Level 5 Support and it takes more than an entire clip to kill a scrake. Nobody else finds this a problem?
Either up the damage or increase the clip size for the shotguns I say.

 

[dextronaut]

Level 5 Support and it takes more than an entire clip to kill a scrake. Nobody else finds this a problem?
Either up the damage or increase the clip size for the shotguns I say.

youre not meant to be god in this game. scrakes are one of the harder enemies, theyre not suppose to go down easy.

 

[nath2009uk]

^ That.

Also, have someone help you with it.
If your taking down Scrakes on your own your team sucks. (Unless they're dead, which they still suck for dying)

 

[Phantomspiker]

There is nothing wrong with the AA12 as far as I'm concerned (could use a slight price decrease though), once the SS weapons are nerfed down to a reasonable level it will seem like a better option.

 

[mamoo]

Level 5 Support and it takes more than an entire clip to kill a scrake. Nobody else finds this a problem?
Either up the damage or increase the clip size for the shotguns I say.

What difficulty was this on? Because skrakes aren't meant to be taken down in 1 clip on suicidal.

 

[Nejc382]

Its pretty much the most balanced out of m14,scar,AA12 and yeah, the game isnt meant for 1 person to solo everything -.-

Try KF version 1000 and ull see what i mean

 

[Foxyfired]

youre not meant to be god in this game. scrakes are one of the harder enemies, theyre not suppose to go down easy.

yes but i think you must kill a fp with 1 clip on normal alone BUT why 2 shot of the EBRM14 kill him ????
they must balance ebr then the aa12 will looks more powerful

 

[Foxyfired]

Its pretty much the most balanced out of m14,scar,AA12 and yeah, the game isnt meant for 1 person to solo everything -.-

Try KF version 1000 and ull see what i mean

ebr=scar=2500

 

[omarfw]

scrakes are meant to take lots of damage. and what difficulty are you reffering to?

there are many different variables that affect how much health it has

 

[widowmaker]

Specifically, a scrake on any difficulty with 1 person has less health than the same wave with more than 1 person.

 

[Aurien]

I think the AA12 is fine the way it is. Probably the best thing support and our shotguns are for is clearing a path. You know the point where people are falling back, because of the huge amount of specimen walking their way and they're getting close? That when you step up and let the shotgun hum. Our bullet penetration is awesome for clearing a crowd. You can sweep a hall right and left real quick and completely clear it with a couple of rounds. This buys time for people to reload and push back up.

 

[robdude19]

What Aurien said. The AA12 is best for crowd clearing and doubles as an effective FP/scrake killer. just throw 3 nades first to soften the target then you can down it with 1 clip, at least at level 5 or 6.

 

[lazylink]

The AA12 is better than the SCAR and I have a level 6 commando and a level 3 support. The only advantage that the SCAR has is ammo efficiency and killing Husks, but in term of killing power AA12 wins hands down.

 

[!_Zombie_!]

If any improvement needs to be done it'll be that they increase the 5 pellet shell to a 6 pellet one.

 

[omarfw]

just because you pay 4000 for it doesn't mean it's going to be some ultimate specimen slaughtering doomsday device. it's just an auto-shotty and it kills stuff just like an auto shotty would.

 

[widowmaker]

The AA12 is better than the SCAR and I have a level 6 commando and a level 3 support. The only advantage that the SCAR has is ammo efficiency and killing Husks, but in term of killing power AA12 wins hands down.

Incompatible comparison. The weapons are used in completely different manners. You can't effectively take down specimens from medium to long range with shotguns.

 

[sighpie]

Sorry, I omitted some things. We were playing hard, and the 20 shells that I emptied into a walking scrake still had to have some sharps on it, aswell as level4 demo using his m79 grenlauncher. Which is the whole point of the game; teamwork.

On suicidal I understand, but like its already been mentioned, when you compare it with the m14 which has 20 bullets and being able to 3 shot a scrake, it just makes no sense how a gun with 20x5pellets cant do more damage.

If they dont up the damage I would like to see an up in the clips!

 

[nath2009uk]

Exactly. One shot at 'nose touching' rage with the AA12 to it's head should be and instant decap and should also rip his face in two.

 

[HaTeMe]

I dont get these guys. They pick one of the best weapons in game and say it sucks and should be better.

AA12 is very good crowd control weapon, you can take out like 30 lesser enemies which are packed up in front of you with a single clip, hows that bad? It might not be as effective against scrakes and fleshpounds but you can always use eg. hunting shotgun which takes down scrakes just like that and isnt bad against fleshpounds either. Level 5 support can carry both AA12 and hunting shotgun.

While it might not be very realistic that 20 shotgun shells in the head doesnt rip your head off, its still a game and in order to keep it balanced you have to make some sacrifices.

 

[[UIT] Akame]

.medium to long range with shotguns.

Geez back in the day (kf retail 1.0) shotgun sniping was all the rage.

I don't quite understand why people don't think highly of the AA12. It quite clearly the best mob weapon and has the highest body shot dps in the game (granted not sustained). Level 6 support can usually get it by second round hard or forth round suicidal at latest. Running shotgun/AA12 makes you a mob beast.