Captain Data said:Let me watch that StuG III in RO:O, I think it gots the short barrel.
Nope, it's the long L/43 barrel. The short barrel barely clears the edge of the hull, and has no muzzle brake:
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Captain Data said:Let me watch that StuG III in RO:O, I think it gots the short barrel.
Point the left or right front of your tank at the enemy. In this simulation even a Tiger needs to do this. I really hope they fix the armor so it is a better simulation. I've sat a T34 on a high point on the Arad on the right flank and had a good dozen shots bounce off. At one time I faced down 3 Tigers and was hit by each at least once to no effect. One finally got a decent angle on my left tracks and damaged them. I still took out the 3 Tigers and 2 Panzer IVs. I further damaged 4 Panzer IVs and 1 Panther. The only reason they took me out was my wife as yelling at me to help with something so I ignored the PKZW that thought it had snuck behind me and yes one of the passengers hit me with a Panzerfaust.Bolt said:Now about those anglings... I wonder, when people say "angle the tank", they mean what?
a) The tank shows only frontal armour to his enemy (0 degrees)
b) The tank stays like 30-40 degrees to his enemy
Which one?
Captain Data said:Funny, some of those tactics would NEVER work in reality.
About that Tiger: A Tiger in the Open is a easy target for large masses of T34/85, Aircraft and so on. A Tiger was often used for ambushes in the rubble, pointing in that only direction where the enemy will appear.
Captain Data said:Funny, some of those tactics would NEVER work in reality.
A StuG III is ALWAYS useless @ long ranges in reality. Its maingun was way too weak (too short) to penetrate any armor at long distances, it was created for Infantry-support. Too bad there is no damage-falloff @ great distances in RO:O I think, otherwise you HAVE to engage with that StuG.
Magnusvermagnussen said:This is true for early StuG variants (Ausf. A-E) which employed the short-barreled, low-velocity 75mm StuK 37 L/24 weapon. This was for all intents and purposes useless against most French armour, which was actually quite good at the outbreak of the war in 1940. The StuG III with the L/24 was used extensively on the Eastern Front up until the advance on Moscow was stopped in the Winter of 1941/42.
However, by 1942, an upgunned StuG III Ausf. F & G were equipped with a much heavier, far more effective anti-armour 75mm StuK 40 L/43 weapon, which is the machine they've made in the game. Later variants were also uparmoured with sloping frontal armour.
Captain Data said:Let me watch that StuG III in RO:O, I think it gots the short barrel.
That StuG III was only that successful because it gots a low siluette - because there was no easy-to-spot turret on that tank. It was cheap to produce and great for ambush-tactics or as support for real Tanks / Tankdestroyers and yes, you're right, great in destroying enemy (medium) tanks. But I still think, it was only successful in large numbers, as support or when doing some ambushes, but not as a "Tank-Sniper". For this job, you've got real Tankdestroyers, like the "Jagdpanther".
Howard GB said:As a German on Arad, get a panther and head right (when starting near to the bridge), hug the hedge and keep going until you are at the top of the hill looking across the field with the village to your right (where your own tanks will be if they have any sense and don't want to die). If you look in this area there is a fold in the ground which makes a perfect firing position, on one match I got about 15 kills before having my tank destroyed and this was only due to sheer numbers of shells being shot at me and bouncing off the sloped front armour. I repeated this tactic and the only way I could be destroyed was by a talented IS-2 gunner or by arty- at that range the T34/85 could not get enough penetration to even dent the armour.
In any other tank on any other map, always angle the tank hull so that the corner is pointing at the enemy, this means when they fire at you your oponent can only hit a slanted edge, though don't try it against a Panther or Tiger or IS-2 because sheer penetration power makes mincemeat of smaller tanks.
Vietnow said:couldnt have said it better myself. the importance of angling is greatly underestimated. sometimes im accused of cheating. however i disagree with the T-34/85 statement. any tanker with some sense would simply drive round your side and lob a shell into your ammo compartment and get you in 2 if not one hits.