Then why add it or approve of it if it doesn't even bring a challenge, but rather enforces the same camping motive this guy wants to get rid of? It makes no sense.
Remove trader location marker in Suc/HoE during round?
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Then why add it or approve of it if it doesn't even bring a challenge, but rather enforces the same camping motive this guy wants to get rid of? It makes no sense.
It does not enforce anything. Everyone will play the game exactly as they have before.
Only difference will be that instead of going to the trader end of wave, you'll go to map centre, and at the start of waves you'll probably be running back to your spot rather than arleady there.
It doesn't enforce camping or kiting, and won't get rid of anything that people don't like. It'll make very little difference.
Most noticable difference will be that people who camp will have to make a decision: Go back to my favourite camping spot and spend the first 10 secs of the wave fighting through mobs, or camp at a slightly worse spot and don't. Hence, I like it.
What about the people that like knowing where the trader is going to be?
If it makes such very little difference to the game, why even do it. I guess that could be what is confusing people?
Same difference. Doesn't change a thing. Since you are removing the arrow, it only follows that you are removing the distance counter as well.
Again, small & known maps aren't a big deal. Large and unknown maps will be the problem. Again, what you want really tilts the game to zerkers and infinite ammo weapons.
Add in that the "double-click" to buy or sell a weapon doesn't always work, and someone getting to the trader with 10 or less seconds would probably be the same as not getting there.
Exactly.
Dude, no one hates a team barricading more than I do. I don't weld in the game and I recommend against it. But what you are suggesting doesn't directly affect a team barricading. It is going to make teams go to all zerkers & medics with infinite ammo weapons because if any other perk misses a trader time, they're screwed.
Assuming EVERY TRADER is within 30 seconds. Huge assumption and it isn't true.
How does a player carry "extra guns." If you are talking about a player giving another player half their weapons, now you have 6 players fighting 6 strength mobs with 3 player's weapons. And armor doesn't split.
Hospital Horrors, from spawn to rooftop is probably the longest distance I know of that you can go. When I spawn and need to get to that trader, AFAICR, I either get there just as it shuts, or get there with enough time to get into the trader menu and have it close on me, which means it's presumably 60 seconds away. And presumably 30 seconds from the roughly halfway point.
No other trader springs to mind that you can't get to from spawn. Maybe underground in Biohazard, which is more of a problem now that the other trader isn't bugged. I've never particularly looked at trading spots that're far away from map centres.
But I would've said any trader I could think of would be roughly 30 seconds from map centre. Maybe 40 seconds on the outside. (Assuming you ARE standing in the centre of the map, and know quickest routes to traders).
Better luck next time. Perhaps suggest just removing the red smoke trail, which requires skill and knowledge of players to know their maps.
If no one dies, they will still have their weapons from the previous waves, thus encouraging the team to protect each other. Only ammo will be an issue, which can be resolved by moving around the map for ammo boxes.