"make a difference" balance announcment

[meatloaf]

http://steamcommunity.com/games/KillingFloor/announcements/detail/884023277951052457?p=1

didn't see it anywhere on this site, i never caught wind of it because i'm not in the killing floor group, so here it is in case you're missing it.

1. both surprised and annoyed at the katana autofire being re-added

2. crossbow nerf is glorious

 

[Benjamin]

Haven't seen this yet?

Anyway, some amusing comments on there. So many babies complaining about how it'll be too hard.

 

[meatloaf]

i haven't seen that either.. did i create a useless thread? and where is that on the boards?

edit: nevermind

 

[Merin Redplate]

Oh well, it's worthy of mentioning twice.

 

[timur]

Haven't seen this yet?

Anyway, some amusing comments on there. So many babies complaining about how it'll be too hard.

What sick man sent all these babies to fight?

Anyways, on a more serious note, the main worry, by me anyways, is that the difficulty would be turned up too much, thereby scaring away casual players, whihc make up a substantial part of players (and, more importantly, potential buyers). Therefore this is a serious issue.

I myself am looking forward to the additions, but there you go, I'm a more advanced player.

 

[Vintage]

timur that is why players can choose what difficulty level they play. No one would force new players to play suicidal, and the game would still be just fine for newcomers on the lower difficulties.

 

[Yin]

What sick man sent all these babies to fight?

Anyways, on a more serious note, the main worry, by me anyways, is that the difficulty would be turned up too much, thereby scaring away casual players, whihc make up a substantial part of players (and, more importantly, potential buyers). Therefore this is a serious issue.

I myself am looking forward to the additions, but there you go, I'm a more advanced player.

Any game mode but Suicidal is fine and your not supposed to play Suicidal as casual player, so it's the players fault if they try, not the games fault.

 

[F6Knight]

The argument that casual players shouldn't play suicidal is just plain stupid.

I'm a casual player and can handle myself just fine on suicidal. It just requires half a brain and knowledge of your perk. (and obviously don't show up with a level 2 perk on a suicidal server ...)

My only hope is that TWI did not pick 100 "advanced" players to test this new patch because their feedback could screw over every casual player, even on non suicidal difficulties.

I'm all for a challenge but even suicidal needs to be playable for casual players who at least know what they are doing. (with a level 5-6 perk)

 

[Salad Snake]

The argument that casual players shouldn't play suicidal is just plain stupid.

I'm a casual player and can handle myself just fine on suicidal. It just requires half a brain and knowledge of your perk. (and obviously don't show up with a level 2 perk on a suicidal server ...)

My only hope is that TWI did not pick 100 "advanced" players to test this new patch because their feedback could screw over every casual player, even on non suicidal difficulties.

I'm all for a challenge but even suicidal needs to be playable for casual players who at least know what they are doing. (with a level 5-6 perk)

I would consider myself a casual player, and that's the balance perspective I try to represent, Normal and Hard balance. I'm more interested in new and interesting ways to play then necessarily the best way, and a well-balanced and varied assortment of weapons is most conducive to that.

The more viable options there are, the more unpredictable and fun the game is. That's why I'm interested in the balance beta despite considering myself non-hardcore.


I think anyone can play Suicidal, so long as you pay attention, communicate, and know what you should be doing at any one time. Whether you'll beat Suicidal.....well that's another matter entirely.

 

[9_6]

I'm all for a challenge but even suicidal needs to be playable for casual players who at least know what they are doing. (with a level 5-6 perk)

You ain't casual anymore if you got all lv5-6 perks...

 

[Olivier]

You ain't casual anymore if you got all lv5-6 perks...

Oh many players powerleveld their perks to lvl6 and are not even surviving on hard (LOL)

But yeah, the comments are pretty funny.

 

[jd641]

I'd call myself a casual KF player. I don't have all Level 5 or 6 perks and I'm really enjoying the new balancing fixes. It's making suicidal just that....... suicidal.

 

[timur]

Okay, misunderstanding.
I thought you guys were complaining about the worries and discussions over if normal would be too hard.

In my opinion, you should never be whining about how hard suicidal is; the name kinda hints that it's supposed to be that way.

 

[Yin]

In my opinion, you should never be whining about how hard suicidal is; the name kinda hints that it's supposed to be that way.

Agree, I wish more people would think like you timur, your not supposed to survive a suicide.

 

[Spicy]

I'll be happy when there's much less pipe-bomb spam. They can actually focus on shooting groups of specimens, and save the bombs for the Fleshpounds or scrakes.

"WTF! You guys said FF was off, how did I blow myself up?!" >_>

 

[brick_top1982]

I saw a lot of negative feed back on the forums. People complaining that it is going to be too hard. But as said above somewhere, maybe we'll finally stop having level 2s, 3s, 4s (4 is questionable) joining suicidal games, just to be carried by a few level 6 SS players.

I'm all thumbs up for what is being proposed here.

 

[meatloaf]

well the thing about kf being too hard.. when i first started playing kf, if i saw a fleshpound, i would run to the nearest player, we'd both throw all of our grenades, and we'd pour our ammo into it, and then we'd be lucky if we both lived

recently it's rare to even see a fleshpound, at least with it's head still attached.

back then it was rewarding to even reach the patriarch's wave, and killing him was something to cheer about. do you remember how we'd all sell everything and pick out a LAW?

i miss all this, i really do. except the law part. that never works out, lol.

 

[Deafmute]

well the thing about kf being too hard.. when i first started playing kf, if i saw a fleshpound, i would run to the nearest player, we'd both throw all of our grenades, and we'd pour our ammo into it, and then we'd be lucky if we both lived

That's kind of what the beta is like now.

Things still need tweaking obviously but I believe we have enough testers and varied opinions to avoid making KF "too hard" for casual players.

 

[Galslacht]

What sick man sent all these babies to fight?

Anyways, on a more serious note, the main worry, by me anyways, is that the difficulty would be turned up too much, thereby scaring away casual players, whihc make up a substantial part of players (and, more importantly, potential buyers). Therefore this is a serious issue.

I myself am looking forward to the additions, but there you go, I'm a more advanced player.

The casual players can always get back to hard, normal and even easy, I dont see the problem.

 

[Salad Snake]

The casual players can always get back to hard, normal and even easy, I dont see the problem.

Well, it's still to be seen if the new changes will turn casual players off toward Normal and Hard. Personally I think that while the balance is getting very good at Suicidal, it feels a tad uneven at Normal. Pipes, launchers, and the AA12 are still just as easy as before to solo a FP with, while the Xbow requires assistance even though it arguably takes more skill to tag a FP with multiple headshots.