Beta Map RO-Kolno_Beta2

[EvilHobo]

A map without snipers empowers the MGs. That is why a lack of snipers makes for more tactical play. There's more to the map than have the sniper camp somewhere and kill every MG the moment a tracer is seen.

I haven't played beta 2 yet, but if there are indeed 3 MGs to a side this needs to be rectified. 2 MGs per side seems like the sweet spot.

 

[EscAz]

sorry but I disagree, the sniper has to be very carefull, so does the MG, it's like that on all map except few and work well.

2 mg is fine on a map like stalingrad kessel where you can flank it, bu on Kolno it's easy to block youe ennemy with crossfire. I've done it yesterday and don't think the ennemies liked to be stuck at spawn exit without sniper to break the camp.

This game is balanced with normal classes, you don't need anything to change if the map does not allow it. Smolensk has the same problem.
and actually it's 3 mg, what is way too much, the river looks like omaha beach sometimes.

 

[melipone]

There seem to be unlimited MG's as allies. Only 2 for German

 

[smokeythebear]

Nice update. New german & soviet spawns are very well done. I kinda wish you would just use the standard classes with default loadouts, but either way this is still my favourite custom map. Maps should really be made to match RO's gameplay, not the other way around IMO. Thanks again for the update!

 

[PrivateJazz]

Kolno Beta 2 is off the Splat server due to the spawn bug error that prevents Allies spawning despite having sufficient reinforcements.

We will review at Beta3.

We also polled to see what version people prefered:
Approx values were:
Beta 1 70%
Beta 2 0%
No Kolno at all. 30%

Reasons behind the dislikes were
New spawn position (Allies).
Bugs.
Errors.
Weapon load outs MG's allies and axis.

Positive feedback was increased reinforcements.

We may reinstall Beta 1 whilst we await next update.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

After playing this version of the map a few times...

- I did prefer the previous sky and lighting to this one.
- That trench near the initial Russian spawn seems a bit out of place, and an obstacle to the Russians who spawn and either fall in it when trying to jump it, or get stuck going around it. I think the wall in the first version was much more appropriate.
- Really miss the pistol when I am an MGer, even though it shows up on the screen when selecting classes. I honestly must say, I really prefer the stock class settings.

Other than that, I like the fighting that goes on in the central area of the map. Was always lots of tough fun.

 

[GS_Schimpf]

Any news on this one? New fixed release?

 

[smokeythebear]

Flashpan releases very nice maps, but never seems to finish them.

 

[EvilHobo]

Even his betas make a better showing than most peoples' finals. Still though, I would like to see Kolno completed and I feel almost as though beta 2 was a step down.

 

[Ronin]

we had to take beta 2 off server as the SM kept downloading repeatedly, hence no one could join .... anyone know why ?

 

[Zetsumei]

file mismatch between server and redirect will cause the stated error.

 

[FlashPanHunter]

I'm willing to try another beta of this map, rolling back to first version and updating it from there. Other than the reinforcements level and the mill windows bug, could some people give me about five or so changes they think the first beta needs for a good update.

 

[GS_Schimpf]

Water at the mill needs fixing. If you go prone in it, you won't be able tom get up again.

 

[spraduke]

tbh FPH the first beta was excellent appart from the tweaks mentioned plus having all the relevant textures/code in the map file.

I would happily play it a lot (not enough sunny maps for RO ne1 would have thought it was a four year cloudy day ww2 )

 

[smokeythebear]

I'm willing to try another beta of this map, rolling back to first version and updating it from there. Other than the reinforcements level and the mill windows bug, could some people give me about five or so changes they think the first beta needs for a good update.

I still like the new soviet line from beta 2, some very intense combat there. The only suggestion I have is make cover the right hieght for riflemen to rest their guns. As well give grenades to smg's not riflemen if you are limiting grenades.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

Keep the old Russian line (sorry Smokey) ans sunny sky from Beta 1 and keep the weapon loadouts for the classes stock.

 

[EvilHobo]

I disagree in the argument for stock loadouts. Keeping them as is makes Kolno unique in that neither the Assault or Rifle classes can dominate and that--to clear a building/room--a combination of the two is required: one to throw the grenades and the other to clear it.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

At least give the guy with the mg a pistol...

 

[endorphin]

Whatever sky you use in the next beta, please make it high resolution. I like the fact that nades are limited on both gorlitz and kolno.

 

[FlashPanHunter]

Alright, I've got a plan for the map based on this feedback, shouldn't take long. One problem, I don't have the first beta anymore, and the only download available is the uz2 files. Can any one get me a copy of the beta one and I'll have a third version ready pretty quickly.