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[Game] Homefront

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#162
slavek said:
I heard they are already making an expansion. HomeFront: The Northern War.

Apparently North Korea did not find any oil in the main 48 states so they packed up and went to Alaska to obtain oil. Now you take control of an American Polar bear cavalry regiment of sergeants extreme to push back the new Asiatic threat to save your delicious wild salmon . . . . and oil . . . and freedom.
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I don't blame them for attacking for salmon...god that is some good stuff. And healthy! :D
 
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#163
Grobut said:
The whole thing is a missed oppertunity. The "freedom fighters" angle has tons of potential, you could make such an amazing game on that premise, i can come up with a million ideas right now just thinking about the premise, of interesting locales that have never been done in games, gameplay mechanics, the sort of missions you could make, there is just so much potential in the idea!

And it's all squandered in Homefront, who seem intent on taking this great and different idea, and mashing it into the CoD cookie cutter mold till nothing of the origional idea remains..


Ok, so we've got a world falling apart and alliances falling by the wayside, but lets not visit anything interesting and new, like Kosovo falling back into old patterns, Finland getting annexed by Russia, South Korea beeing invaded by the North, Japan beeing invaded by China, or anything interesting and new, or any of a hundred historical struggles that actually happened and which have never been put into a game before. Lets just make it about Americans as allways, yeah, that's the ticket!

And lets not do anything interesting with the gameplay either. Ohh sure, with a premise like this, they had every oppertunity to choose a setting where civilians do not have easy access to firearms, and make exciting stealth based missions, taking notes from the Thief series and games like NOLF-2, and suspensfull fighting mechanics from games like RO, where you have to face overwhelming odds to aquire even the most basic of firearms, tools to modify them, and choose how you might want to sabotage the enemy to give yourself more room to opperate in, and even risk your neck just to bring intel from one resistance group to the other.

Ohh no, why do anything like that, when you can just copy/paste the gameplay from CoD, and give everyone M4's, so real blood, and have people circle strafe tanks and fire RPG's at them from 2 meters away with no ill effects to themselves.
Who would want things like suspense, an emotional connection with the gameworld, because the gameplay mechanics seem plausible, stealth and aquisition of weapons and intel, an enemy that actually seems threatning and dangerous because you can't just gun down 500 of them in a scripted event, guerilla warfare, or anything wierd like that, who would want such a thing!?!?
No no no, lets just make a 1:1 scale CoD clone, which plays like a bad 80's "straight to video" action movie starring Reb Brown and Chuck Norris, yeah, that's the right way to do a resistance movement!

Seargant shooter master person of extreme importance, **** YEAH! Go Wolverines!!
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Exactly.

ductape3 said:
I personally believe that this game could provide an amazing singleplayer experience with some of the mechanics from the Heroes of Stalingrad videos and gameplay where you have smart enemies, lethal weapons, high recoil weapons (you aren't a trained infantry man, much less a spec ops superman).

A game where you play like an insurgent, sneaking around at night and sabotaging bridges, ammo dumps, and occasionally infiltrating bases to burn the occupiers' barracks while they sleep. Where you set up ambushes against greater numbers but unsuspecting forces. A game where you truly are the underdog, fighting against the superior invader, using inferior technology and weapons, low amounts of ammunition, making IEDs and using your home ground to your advantage.

Maybe that ambush goes wrong and you have to fight your way out and hide. Avoid or fight through the rapidly converging NK troops, running through innocent homes in a desperate attempt to make it to a rallypoint/ safehouse.

I could even think of a couple interesting multiplayer modes. Ambush, checkpoint, and breakout.

In ambush, the NK team has to get a convoy from one side of the map to the other side. The US resistance fighters have to stop them with IEDs, RPGs, and other traps. The NK would get the convoy moving any of 3 or so different roads.

The game has some way of forcing/encouraging the convoy to stay together. My idea was to have AI ammo trucks which have to be escorted by the players. As soon as resistance shots are fired, they gun it to get out of the killzone.

The Resistance would receive a warning as to which road is being taken and then try to set up an ambush along the road rapidly. If the convoy trucks are destroyed or incapacitated completely then the resistance wins, if the convoy gets through NK wins.

Checkpoint would work like DE in CSS. The resistance has to clear out a checkpoint and plant a bomb/steal information from a terminal at the checkpoint. There could even be a variant for 1 flag CTF with an info folder like in TF2

Breakout would work like the hostage rescue in CSS, resistance has to rescue some captured resistance fighters.

DM and Team DM would also work as gametypes
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These ideas could have made a fantastic game. Then I watched this.
YouTube - HFront Gameplay 1

And now I remember that since this is multi platform, they have to make it playable for this guy. And they still managed to **** it up. Look at that ai. Pretty impressive how the NK stands straight up in the open. Listen to that riveting conversation and arguing between the characters. Those full stops between the lines really draw me in.

I think those 3 resistance fighters killed more NK than the entire west coast US military. Its all good if I'm a superman in games, but dont try to tell me I'm the underdog and then give me this ****.
 
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#164
Finished single player last night.

I'm sure we'll be discussing this game on this weekend's Crosshairs, my rating is:

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out of five.

If you missed out on the free Metro 2033 game offer, don't even bother with this game. Had I paid retail for just this, I'd have had a ToYeD style meltdown on the show bemoaning the state of PC gaming.

At the very least, wait until it's on sale for $10.00.
 
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#165
HeyCarnut said:
Finished single player last night.

I'm sure we'll be discussing this game on this weekend's Crosshairs, my rating is:

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out of five.

If you missed out on the free Metro 2033 game offer, don't even bother with this game. Had I paid retail for just this, I'd have had a ToYeD style meltdown on the show bemoaning the state of PC gaming.

At the very least, wait until it's on sale for $10.00.
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Why did you even bother with it? IMO the writing was on the wall a long time ago. I guess it would be your duty to play it as a member of Bash and Slash lol.
 
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#166
hockeywarrior said:
Why did you even bother with it? IMO the writing was on the wall a long time ago. I guess it would be your duty to play it as a member of Bash and Slash lol.
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I have a dedicated LAN room with six to eight boxes depending on setup, and it was an opportunity to put Metro 2033 on another box for basically free while trying a new shooter. I will try most any new shooter, to form my own opinion. I've seen many with lukewarm reviews that I enjoyed, and some with stellar reviews that put me to sleep. Nothing to do with B&S (of which I am not a member, BTW).
 
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#167
HeyCarnut said:
I have a dedicated LAN room with six to eight boxes depending on setup, and it was an opportunity to put Metro 2033 on another box for basically free while trying a new shooter. I will try most any new shooter, to form my own opinion. I've seen many with lukewarm reviews that I enjoyed, and some with stellar reviews that put me to sleep. Nothing to do with B&S (of which I am not a member, BTW).
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Ah well you are almost always on casts, so I wasn't sure.
 
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#168
HeyCarnut said:
Finished single player last night.

I'm sure we'll be discussing this game on this weekend's Crosshairs, my rating is:

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out of five.

If you missed out on the free Metro 2033 game offer, don't even bother with this game. Had I paid retail for just this, I'd have had a ToYeD style meltdown on the show bemoaning the state of PC gaming.

At the very least, wait until it's on sale for $10.00.
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Got the game for free so I am gonna check it out thursday.
Already invited all my friends to play some 'extra MW2 content':rolleyes:
 
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#170
hockeywarrior said:
Ah well you are almost always on casts, so I wasn't sure.
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No problem: Crosshairs was started under Bash, but is a wholly independent show, not beholden in any way to Bash. I did a technical show with Bash at their request, but left the group because I oppose the gladhand approach of the show's interviews. Smart and witty host, though, who I still keep in touch with.

Crosshairs OTOH will call a spade a spade...

In any case, Homefront is not without its SP positives: The battles can be amusingly challenging, the 'Goliath' remote controlled offensive device is an interesting twist that is fun to play with, and some of the 'mood music' is compelling and well played, much better than what I've heard for HOS so far. For all I know, the MP of the game may be much better, I'm just not interested in pub MP play in general, so I've not exercised the game in that mode.
 
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#171
HeyCarnut said:
No problem: Crosshairs was started under Bash, but is a wholly independent show, not beholden in any way to Bash. I did a technical show with Bash at their request, but left the group because I oppose the gladhand approach of the show's interviews. Smart and witty host, though, who I still keep in touch with.

Crosshairs OTOH will call a spade a spade...

In any case, Homefront is not without its SP positives: The battles can be amusingly challenging, the 'Goliath' remote controlled offensive device is an interesting twist that is fun to play with, and some of the 'mood music' is compelling and well played, much better than what I've heard for HOS so far. For all I know, the MP of the game may be much better, I'm just not interested in pub MP play in general, so I've not exercised the game in that mode.
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I've heard from reviews that the multiplayer is pretty solid in Homefront, and is the main redeeming quality of the game. They say that it is alot like COD but is definitely fun and has a lot of "depth" when it comes to unlocks and stuff if you don't mind that.
 
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#175
Zips said:
The SP is quite a bit of fun, in spite of what certain individuals are trying to claim.

The MP, when I can connect, has been an absolute blast.
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Well, I'd like to think that the storyline could be interesting, but just the trailers and videos released look like a real turn off to me. I don't think they had gamers like me in mind when making them :p

But at least some people are enjoying it so that is good.
 
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#178
Reddog said:
My housemate got it, to be fair the SP is laughable but the MP looks robust and fairly well thought out. Though from what I did see it looks like there aren't even any DPRK weapons, it's all tacticool M4's, M249's and XMxx series stuff :confused:
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Is the game earlier released in certain countries or retail?
Steam still says I can only preload and have to wait till tomorrow:confused:
 
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#179
Actin said:
Is the game earlier released in certain countries or retail?
Steam still says I can only preload and have to wait till tomorrow:confused:
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March 17th is the release date in Australia and a few other areas.

It's been out for a day or two now throughout the rest of the world.

Well, minus Japan. It's not out until April 29th there.
 
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