Extremely weird looking muzzle flashes

[Ragox]

I don't know if anybody else has noticed the strange appearance of muzzle flashes in the game footage and screenshots.

They look way too big and bulky. The smoke shouldn't be so dense, too.
Just take a close look at this screenshot here, for example.
You can't tell me that's realistic.
It almost looks like a 20mm cannon is firing

Also from what I've seen it seems to be very annoying ingame, since it blocks a huge area of your screen when firing an automatic weapon.

So, I'd love to know what you guys think...

 

[Nezzer]

Yeah, I don't like it either. IMHO there shouldn't be any muzzle flash at all in daylight maps.

 

[Napkin]

Yeah, I don't like it either. IMHO there shouldn't be any muzzle flash at all in daylight maps.

same, why do all games think everyone is using muskets

 

[Nicholas]

This reminds me of Hollywood, I bet the pistols sound like huge cannons going off too.

 

[Napkin]

I hope tripwire takes these huge fireballs out. Its hard enough to hit far targets with iron sights without seeing flashing fireballs obstructing your target

 

[Snuffeldjuret]

I think TWI made it so to begin with so there would be one issue the whole community would agree upon .

 

[Leopardi]

This reminds me of Hollywood, I bet the pistols sound like huge cannons going off too.

IRL recordings so I doubt that.

 

[SolitarioSoldat]

lol,I agree on those huge fireballs,they shouldn't be visible in day time at all.... I can see this happening on night maps.

 

[Karabiner98k]

IRL recordings so I doubt that.

There's volume levels to take into account. TWI made a good job of it in RO:OST though.

 

[wokelly]

Those flashes dont look right. My summer job recently was a British Guard at Fort York, did volley fire for the guests. I swear that fireballs/smoke combo look like what came out of my Brown Bess.

That seems overkill, though the conflict saw the Germans introduce lower flash powder, it was apperently only a major issue at night from what I read..

 

[Merin Redplate]

Could be the screeny was taken in early development, before the true effects were perfected.:IS2:

 

[Ragox]

Thank you all for the support.
It's good to know that I'm not the only one disliking them
So let's hope the devs will notice this thread... Do they respond sometimes?

 

[hockeywarrior]

Yeah I agree those weird-looking fireballs emanating from the soldier's guns don't look right at all. Ideally there would hardly be any muzzle flashes at day time -- let alone a massive fireball.

Let's hope they take it down a notch considerably ...

 

[Apos]

WWII weaponry redefined: True to life ballistics, bullet penetration, breathing, adjustable sights, free aim, weapon bracing, photo-real graphics and more, create WWII weaponry that has no equal.

Yep, TWI - please remove Hollywood reality and effects.

 

[CCCP]

i never used ППШ 41 so i don't know if this looks real , but Mosin carbine does create gigantic fireball very visible during daytime , so maybe it was early generic

 

[Nicholas]

Yep, TWI - please remove Hollywood reality and effects.
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What I hate in Hollywood and video games is when all the sounds are overexagerated, so a pistol sounds like a HUGE EPIC CANNON but when the explosions and machine guns start happening its just as loud because they already made the pistol as loud as possible.

I remember how in BC2 all the sounds were maxed out, so your gun was EAR DEAFININGLY EPIIIIIIIIIIIIIC but when a tank blew up next to you it wasn't impressive at all. In RO they nailed the sounds by not making everything EXTREEEEEEEME!

i never used ППШ 41 so i don't know if this looks real , but Mosin carbine does create gigantic fireball very visible during daytime , so maybe it was early generic

Well the Mosin Nagant fires a large caliber rifle round, as for the PPsh it is firing the most powerful pistol round in the world (until the magnum sized revolvers started coming out) in really hot loads at an extremely fast rate, so maybe that has an effect.

 

[Frostedfire]

There's volume levels to take into account. TWI made a good job of it in RO:OST though.

unless you count the vehicles. I managed to sneak up on *a lot* of people using the clown car and they barely heard me coming before I landed in their crater :IS2:

 

[213]

do we have some high speed photos or footage of muzzle flashes? i'm pretty sure they'll look similar. but without concrete proof, i prefer less flash and more smoke...just my personal opinion since it'll make stalking harder if you can't spot the flash.

 

[LemoN]

Well, we have discussed this particular screenshot already in another thread...
See the other threads if you want to see my opinion on this, I'm too lazy to write it all for the 5th time.

But in short, yes TWI definitely need to improve their muzzle flashes, especially for daylight conditions.

 

[wokelly]

do we have some high speed photos or footage of muzzle flashes? i'm pretty sure they'll look similar. but without concrete proof, i prefer less flash and more smoke...just my personal opinion since it'll make stalking harder if you can't spot the flash.

Modern ammo is generally lower flash than WWII era ammo. Would be hard to find video of actual WWII footage ammo to judge flash. Would really need authentic color video.