Hear me rant!

[skewp]

i have a 6950 and i can play the game maxed out... here my rant... drop the attitude..

You have an i5 at 4.2 Ghz. That's overkill. I just feel like my CPU should be able to cope with the game. Athlon is not even that bad when compared to the Phenom. It's so damn frustrating. Anyway, I'm out of here...

 

[Alperce]

Well, I'm not really fond of his atitude either, just because someone misread your post, or said your graphics card wasn't the best out there, which in fact is not, is no critic to you, or any problem you're having.

That said, lowering shadows is indeed your best option. Most of the issues are not system related, and the ones that are seem to be, 90% of the time, CPU related, and that's the problem you're having I belive. Either overclock the CPU, or lower shadows until the game is better optimized and you can play with the quality the game should provide running on your system.

 

[vyyye]

I'm sorry that only because I differ in opinion from yours, you'd rather label me as clueless than come up with actual arguments from an objective perspective instead of the personal attacks from a sarcastic one.

I've already admitted that I believe that the game is partially to blame. While you meant this as a sarcastic remark, I think it holds true.

Actually this is a lot less weird as you think, the actual speed gains in performance the last few years has been disappointing to say the least. Videocards could have been much faster, but there really hasn't been much motivation for rapid development.

And while Directx 9 is obviously an issue, they are already looking into DirectX11 support, so no reason to rant about that. I don't see why you compare the 580(which is faster than the 6950) and 6950 to the actual highend line of videocards such as the 590 and the 6990. Dual-gpu is exactly what is dedicated to running every bit of graphical detail on the very highest.

Though with a little bit of tweaking, you can already enjoy graphics that nearly equal those that are maxed out for much less of a performance hit.
This means that it's not too hard to straighten the performance issues out until the actual implementation of performance improvements occur.

Now feel free to rant on, but that really won't get you anywhere.

There is no need to produce any argument, you made a false claim and have yet to back it up with anything. Contrary to what you might believe, not only the

 

[Badger906]

at the end of the day the 6950 is a capable card.
its not the best in the world, but its more than capable of playing ro2.

I havent ran any bench marks or frame rate counters... as ive seen no need to, its played every game ive thrown at it maxed out, so to me numbers mean nothing.

when i can no longer play games maxed out at 1920x1080 ill thing about getting a new card.

 

[Rumpullpus]

On the beta ultra but not quite ultra settings I had constant 60FPS in windowed mode, I doubt the actual ultra will suddenly not let me run the game in full screen. Not that I will play it in the first place, what a boring piece of ****.

And what are you talking about anyway? Have you even looked at benchmarks or are you making stuff up as you go?

numbers dont mean ****, never rely on graphs and numbers.
i got a ATI4870 and it also runs witcher2 on ultra no problem plays pritty well with BF3 too though i dont know the settings on that one because i havent played it enough.

just because you have the "newest and greatest!" card out on the market right now doesnt always mean the cards any good. also doesnt help that RO2 is pritty fubar right now.

 

[PermenentMarker]

Here are some recommendations:

First, you went from an Nvidia card to an ATI.
You probably went to add remove programs, removed nvidia drivers, then downloaded and installed latest ati drivers. That would not be bad but as you have issues try this:

http://www.guru3d.com/category/driversweeper/

Clean out entirely all GPU drivers, left over dll files and registry... it might help.


Next, as you know that your cpu is bottlenecking the videocard, you might as well move up your bus from 200 to 210... that should give you an extra 150Mhz on your quad... might help a tiny bit and will not heat up much more.


Graphic settings:
I recommend native monitor resolution.
Everything on ultra with the exception of shadows on either low or high.
No AA
No Bloom, put in blur if you want.

This looks good and performs really well on my system that isn't all that different from yours... besides a lower end videocard. (GTX260)


If you still aren't pushing between minimum 45 to 80+ fps, just for testing sake, try setting the sound to 16 instead of 32.

Unfortunately all sounds go through CPU and not audio card, so that might just be it. (the extra stress due to graphics card might just be overwhelming on the cpu)

All in all, I am hoping the game will be perfectly optimized within the next few months for everyone.

Best of luck and study hard

 

[toidi]

Some of the arguments and suggestions thrown about this forum are amusing to say the least.

I too have microstutter and fps drops from playing on certain maps especially, considering I upgraded my card two weeks ago from a gt240 (my 460gtx cooked a few months back) to a 6870 I have experienced much the same performance on the new card.

Sadly after playing around with loads of settings in the cfg files such as DOF/blur/ texture allocation and the like, the game still performs the same on my rig whether I set all of the settings to ultra or lowest (give or take a few fps).

OP really should not have the issues he is having with the setup he has, there IS a problem somewhere with RO2 engine.

One thing that I have noticed that may be a link to all of the similar issues that people are having on varying hardware is that of the OS. Are people who are experiencing above mentioned issues running Windows 7 64 bit? Just a shot in the dark..

My specs if anyone is interested:
AMD 1055t hex core @ 3.6 gig
4 gig ddr3 @ 1440ish
6870 1gig
win 7 64 bit.
Via hd audio (crap onboard, but disabling it in cfg still does not remove the issue).

 

[Colt .45 killer]

toidi, you might be one of the best blindfolded marksmen yet .

I've had some microstutter issues as well, and yes win 7 x64.

 

[Heniu]

I just feel like my CPU should be able to cope with the game.

Unfortunately, reality is such a b*tch that she does not give a single f*** about your feelings.
She just tells you that your CPU is too weak to handle RO2 at a desirable level.

 

[feldmarschall]

Well I have an Radeon HD 6950 as well, but the one with 2GB. The game runs very well on it, I always have 30-50 fps. Okay, I had 80 in RO1 but...well..

I think many problems refer to the servers.

 

[eliterizzo]

to OP, turn your sound quality from "high", to "low" in game. this helped me TREMENDOUSLY as far as fps goes. oh, and by the way, you wont notice a sound quality difference. you cant lose buddy.

 

[SolitarioSoldat]

Well I have an Radeon HD 6950 as well, but the one with 2GB. The game runs very well on it, I always have 30-50 fps. Okay, I had 80 in RO1 but...well..

I think many problems refer to the servers.

Thats true server lag is noticable and since I have afterburner on as a habit when I play I can notice lag sometimes even when I have 70-80 FPS steady.Then I know for sure server is struggling with all the things happening at the moment,but some servers that had almost ZERO lag problems 2 patches a go,now they are total lagfest...something went wrong 2 patches a go server side not clients,and I know this for fact because the same exact GOOD and RELIABLE servers I had 70-80 ping steady,now it goes from 120-300,servers never changed provider,nor hardware nor location,its the same exact server and all is the same,what went wrong? well looks like all started going south 2 patches a go!!!

As for the game being playable,well yes it is,here it how it goes,this is only client side what happens to me not including the server high ping problems:

-First 15 minutes of gameplay on descent server 60-100 FPS
Nice and smooth gameplay with low hiccups here and there when shooting PPSH or Russian MG.

GPU1: 45% usage
GPU2: 45% usage
CPU: 43-47% usage

-(Here is the fun part) after 15 min of gameplay!!!!!

Heavy lag,microstutter,hard to aim cause your aimsight sort of shifts cause you have that split of a second pause in game,sometimes you smack against walls or get stuck for a second, 25-45 FPS....

GPU1: 22-35% Usage
GPU2: 22-35% Usage
CPU: 30-35% Usage

SEE THE DIFFERENCE?????

I'll be damned but looks like we need a plumber,there is a leak in the shower.

 

[Stahlhelmii]

1. Turn shadows from ultra to high, there's no noticable difference and can give you upto 30+ extra FPS.

2. Lower the amount of Anti Aliasing from ultra to medium, the performance gap is just too big.

3. Turn off ambient occlusion, one thread frame lag.

Oh and by the way a 6950 really isn't as fast as you think it is.

Nope. I've put shadows on low, AA off, AO off and it's made practically on diffence at all in my fps. That may work for gpu/cpu combinations that aren't gimped by whatever in the code is causing the poor performance on machines that should run the game well, but for people like the OP and me, it does NOTHING. Nor does cutting the sound quality to low and the channels to 16. And THAT, in and of itself, should tell you that the problem lies in the code/game, and NOT in the settings selected by the player. Then again, some folks don't just want to admit to plain facts and common sense when they have an agenda to protect.

 

[skewp]

Then again, some folks don't just want to admit to plain facts and common sense when they have an agenda to protect.

I absolutely love that. People here act as if TWI are giving them a daily supply of honeys and blowjobs. I've been patient, I've insisted that things will get better, but I can't keep fooling myself further and can not understand why people don't simply admit that the game, in its core, is broken.

To conclude. Yes, I can get playable framerates in this game. That means I can reach 30+ fps which is in any other game completely acceptable, not in RO2 however, cause even if you have 60fps in your fraps meter, the game stutters, hard. Should this game run better on my rig? Definitelly, every other game does. And don't give me the "ro2 is the most graphically advanced game ever made!!!" idiotism. Playing games cause of graphics is like watching porn for the story. And let's face it, RO2 doesn't look that good at all.

Maybe, in time, the game will work fine. However, that time is not now.
It's too sad what this game has turned out to be. There are tons of empty servers in my list regardless of the time I log on to play. I really hope **** will get sorted out, for RO2's sake, and TWI's.

 

[Icey_Pain]

Nope. I've put shadows on low, AA off, AO off and it's made practically on diffence at all in my fps. That may work for gpu/cpu combinations that aren't gimped by whatever in the code is causing the poor performance on machines that should run the game well, but for people like the OP and me, it does NOTHING. Nor does cutting the sound quality to low and the channels to 16. And THAT, in and of itself, should tell you that the problem lies in the code/game, and NOT in the settings selected by the player. Then again, some folks don't just want to admit to plain facts and common sense when they have an agenda to protect.

That it doesn't work for you, doesn't mean it doesn't work for anyone else. The game ran crap for me and when I applied those settings it ran as smooth as butter.

It's very possible that the problems you and skewp are having require a different approach, but until there's a definite reason and solution for the problems, trying what I described is one of the easiest and fastest methods of gaining extra performance on most machines.

You act like we all try to deny that there's a problem, but that's simply not true. This thread was made with the attitude that just because he bought a videocard, his PC must be fast enough now. He then hears stories with a similar videocard about how people with stronger CPU's have much better performance. And he then waves it off as "My CPU should be able to run it".

So Stahlhelmii, it's fun to jump on the bandwagon of complaining about poor performance, but you're an active forum reader and you probably have read that there are some good performance fixes on the roadmap, so why you continue to critise everyone that tries to come up with a solution in the meantime remains unclear to me.

 

[skewp]

This thread was made with the attitude that just because he bought a videocard, his PC must be fast enough now. He then hears stories with a similar videocard about how people with stronger CPU's have much better performance. And he then waves it off as "My CPU should be able to run it".

You failed to get my point.
How exactly is it illogical to expect that the game will run better after installing a much stronger video card than my old one? And guess what, my PC IS fast enough for this game, cause it ran EXACTLY THE SAME on my ****tass GTS450, which I've failed to say clearly enough. I don't care about the issues this game has with AMD cards, that is NOT my, or anyone elses with AMD cards, problem.

I hate to repeat myself, and I am fully aware that not all games are the same, but I already wrote the comparison between witcher 2 and RO2 on both of my cards. (Witcher 2 is a very demanding game btw, and looks absolutely spectacular).
GTS450 - all low details - 25 fps average
HD6950 - all ULTRA - 40 fps average

No amount of "do this do that" tweaking will solve any of RO2's problems until a massive, and I mean MASSIVE, REAL performance fix is done, and this buzzy, glitchy sound is fixed.

 

[Stahlhelmii]

So Stahlhelmii, it's fun to jump on the bandwagon of complaining about poor performance, but you're an active forum reader and you probably have read that there are some good performance fixes on the roadmap, so why you continue to critise everyone that tries to come up with a solution in the meantime remains unclear to me.

Uhm ... could it be because tons of us have reported over and over that such "solutions" don't make one bit of difference for our fps?

As for your "good performance fixes on the road map," as an "active forum reader" yourself, you know damned well that the last "good performance fix" caused many of us to go from playable to unplayable. You've responded to threads in which many of us have reported that the October 7th patch cut our FPS in HALF. Yes, HALF, as in 50 PERCENT!

How's that honey tasting?

 

[Icey_Pain]

There are always a bunch of people complaining that every patch upto this point has decreased performance, even if there were no performance fixes in the patch logs.

You continue to be annoyed and maybe even angered to the point where I don't expect Tripwire to be able to calm you within the next year or so.
And I'm not sure where the expression of such annoyance is going to get you, I'm pretty sure they already know of your frustrations considering the amount of threads you dedicated to it.

It just seems to be a common trait amongst angered people that they suddenly turn all sarcastic. But if I were having a performance problem, then I would certainly complain about it, but after that I would go ingame to see if I can find the culprit of the performance issues.

And I can certainly understand if you don't feel pleasure tracking down bugs for TWI. But it's still better than wasting your time in frustration. Also your post still didn't explain why you unneedingly have to critise everyone that tries to help?

 

[skewp]

But if I were having a performance problem, then I would certainly complain about it, but after that I would go ingame to see if I can find the culprit of the performance issues.

You're kidding right? The game is the 'culprit', stop being stupid.

 

[SCandChives]

Going by some of the posts here and elsewhere I feel almost like the odd one out. I'm able to rune the game pretty much flawlessly on Ultra at 1920x1080 with no noticable slowdowns, admittedly I haven't actually tested the exact number but its atleast a solid 45-55. That's on an HD6850, Phenom X4 964 @ 3.4 ghz and 4 gb DDR3 RAM.