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Japanesse army??

Great if USA & Japan fight in next game made.5 years thay fight in ww2 USA took on two fronts no country could have done that and won its time for USA to get into this fight game.:)

Hard to understand your grammar, but the USA actually fought on 3 fronts (North Africa and the often neglected Italian campaign) in addition to the Pacific and Western Front. :cool:

Back on to subject. I actually made a similar idea request like this earlier too about 4 months ago. And to be honest it fits the description of Red Orchestra. The Soviets created communist network of countries post World War II in Asia: North Korea, Sakhalin, Mongolia, and they helped Communist China also just like they did in Eastern Europe (ex. Hungary, Poland etc..)
 
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Believe me, if the United States had an army that came even close to the USSR in 1945, the Cold War would never have happened - the Americans would have taken Germany and kept going, because there was nothing that scared American business more than communism, and America always does what American business wants. Remember, the USSR defeated 80% of the German army. The Americans and British together barely managed the other 20% - it was a battle of giants in which the United States was an ant.
It's delusional to think that the West and the Soviet Union were anything more than allies of convenience. The USSR didn't sweep across Europe because of the atom bomb, and the United States didn't sweep across Eastern Europe because it didn't have the men or the technology.
As for the crimes against humanity, perpetrated by president Truman against the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, they were just that - politically motivated massacres designed to prevent Japan from falling into communist hands.
The most amazing part of that episode is that Americans still believe that the only alternative to dropping the bomb was to "invade Japan" - the United States would never have had to invade Japan, because as soon as the Red Army, now free to focus its entire attention on Japan, landed on the Japanese home islands, the Empire of the Rising Sun would surrender. There would never be the fabled "250,000 American casualties," because an American would never have had to set foot on Japanese soil (and the Soviets, having already sustained millions of casualties, would probably not be terribly put off by similar numbers - after all, it's not as though Stalin had any regard for human life when it came to politics).
 
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Well i dont get it why russia thinks thay was the biggest badest army back then no way.USA was the biggest badest back then just like now that we are.Russia would have lost to USA. Russia didnt even have a navy only great thing thay had was t-34s and few good planes.Japan would not have surrender unless for the abomb not because of russia. Japan would have fight to the death like germany.

And this is written by someone who has English as a first language?
 
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Well, evidently a major reason why the Japanese did surrender to the Yanks was because of the Russian threat, apparently it was at least a big a influence as the a-bomb on their surrender apparently.

Indeed hiro hito was very frightened by communism and felt that at the end of the war his people begin to believe into communism.
certainly the fear of a kind of come-back of the 30s demontration ...
 
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Indeed hiro hito was very frightened by communism and felt that at the end of the war his people begin to believe into communism.

And it did happen with people vote in '48 ... lol seems Italy ...
In the '49 USA governor pulled back from jail all nationalist, left wing party members and some murderer to rule the japan again ... and communists were declared clandestines.
 
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Yeah, opening the pacific front to Red Orchestra will put in game a lot of new scenario and armies ... from singapore to Harbin ... huge work.

It would be more of a new game than a booster pack... But it would be great if they added the U.S. fighting the Japanese in the Pacific. And they do seem to love under-served theatres.... ;)
 
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USA airforce & navy would have destroyed the russin army & what was left USA army would have smashed them.Ok enouth of that. Be great USA & Japan for next game made.
I just hope you are not American. Because as far as grammar, spelling or historical education go that'd be a disgrace.
Be great you start read book.
 
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Well i dont get it why russia thinks thay was the biggest badest army back then no way.USA was the biggest badest back then just like now that we are.Russia would have lost to USA. Russia didnt even have a navy only great thing thay had was t-34s and few good planes.Japan would not have surrender unless for the abomb not because of russia. Japan would have fight to the death like germany.

The USA didn't even need to get involved in the war..the Russians still would have won, and likely taken most of Europe. Total killed for the Americans and British combined was about 250,000. Total killed in the Soviet Red Army was 8.5 MILLION. Over 30 Million served in the Red Army during the second world war. The Russians shot or imprisioned more of their own people for "cowardice", desertion etc that the combined British and American losses. By 1945, as they were entering Germany and laying waste to the country in horrific revenge there was no way that the Germans could have kept up the manpower drain. The Russians were mass producing tanks, artillery guns, small arms, airplanes on their own by then. They were a juggernaut, a titanic force compared to the American and British armed forces at the time. Some of the greatest battles, in fact, almost all of the greatest battles of the war, with the most horrific losses of lives and massive numbers of soldiers and equipment were fought on the Eastern Front.
The reason we in the west usually think so much less of the East front is because we are indoctrinated by hollywood and our history books, taught to think that the British, Commonwealth, American armies were the be all and end all and the war was mainly fought for Western Europe/France. How many have heard of Operation Bagration for example. That was the Soviet surprise attack to push the Germans out of Belorussia in June 1944. It was overshadowed by the D-Day at the same time and we never learn in our history that it was a bigger operation, required much more planning and manpower and was a by far larger and much more momentous outcome than D-Day.
So no, the USA was not the biggest and baddest back then, by 1945, the Soviet Red Army was.
 
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Just to let you know although Russia's army was huge etc etc they had absolutley no reserves by the time the war ended. Russia was man power depeleted by wars end. They had far more equipment than trained service personnel. I don't think they could have sustained a war into Germany without the allies help. No doubt they would have reconquered all of Russia but invading Germany wouldn't be an option without the western allies help. They just took too many casualties.
 
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I love to see when people try to paint and reduce the American army in WW2 as some sort of "optional" task force in the war. Casualties are not what makes an army strong by any means. The reason the Western Allies did not take as many casualties was because of superior strategy, equipment, near-complete control of the skies, massive firepower, and industrialization. By the war's end in 1945 the Soviet army had been nearly bled to death.

To be honest and factual the Soviet army ****ed for its size, capabilities, and the abundant resources available to them. Nevertheless, they tried their hardest and won the day.

Also what offends me slyder73 is that people like you and others trivialize sacrfices made by the the brave people who fought, suffered, and died in the war to casualty counts??

In addition. the United States didn't actually "get involved" in the war as it was some sort of fun social gathering- it was brutally attacked and forced into war by 3 war-mongering nations for no reason...
 
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The USA didn't even need to get involved in the war..the Russians still would have won, and likely taken most of Europe. Total killed for the Americans and British combined was about 250,000. Total killed in the Soviet Red Army was 8.5 MILLION. Over 30 Million served in the Red Army during the second world war. The Russians shot or imprisioned more of their own people for "cowardice", desertion etc that the combined British and American losses. By 1945, as they were entering Germany and laying waste to the country in horrific revenge there was no way that the Germans could have kept up the manpower drain. The Russians were mass producing tanks, artillery guns, small arms, airplanes on their own by then. They were a juggernaut, a titanic force compared to the American and British armed forces at the time. Some of the greatest battles, in fact, almost all of the greatest battles of the war, with the most horrific losses of lives and massive numbers of soldiers and equipment were fought on the Eastern Front.
The reason we in the west usually think so much less of the East front is because we are indoctrinated by hollywood and our history books, taught to think that the British, Commonwealth, American armies were the be all and end all and the war was mainly fought for Western Europe/France. How many have heard of Operation Bagration for example. That was the Soviet surprise attack to push the Germans out of Belorussia in June 1944. It was overshadowed by the D-Day at the same time and we never learn in our history that it was a bigger operation, required much more planning and manpower and was a by far larger and much more momentous outcome than D-Day.
So no, the USA was not the biggest and baddest back then, by 1945, the Soviet Red Army was.

AMEN!!!!
 
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