The German team logo has to change.

[MacX]

Well its banned if they think its Promoting Facist Ideology.

There are a lot of German Movies with Swastikas in it. (Das Boot, Stalingrad (?), Der Untergang)

Yes, because they are considered educational which a video game is not.

If the context where a swastika appears (the game) is considered to be pro-facsist it's sure gonna be forbidden even without showing the actual swastika.

 

[Stephen]

Yes, because they are considered educational which a video game is not.

Wrong.

 

[b0sco]

Black Ops has swastikas in Nazi Zombies and the Russian campaign segment, they've simply been removed for the German edition and replaced with iron crosses, voil

 

[tarquin]

i would quite like the germans to be 'nazis' under the traditional nazi symbols.

but i can imagine a few people might be offended by that, the existing symbol is clearly a tarted up iron cross - so i don't see any problem with it.

 

[MacX]

Wrong.

Want to explain a little more?

 

[Wesreidau]

I'm pretty sure you could modify a few image files without it altering the checksum (if RO2 has such a thing).

You cannot modify a typo without altering the checksum.

<= CompTIA Security+ Student

 

[Stephen]

Want to explain a little more?

Have you honestly never played a game which you learnt from?

Any number of history-based RTS' or grand strategy titles (or even to an extent, FPS') fall into this category.

Hell, there are niche games which are as much about teaching as playing.

 

[Funkyb]

Just give the Russian logo wings too, and everything will be even

 

[Jorg Biermann1]

Yes, because they are considered educational which a video game is not.

If the context where a swastika appears (the game) is considered to be pro-facsist it's sure gonna be forbidden even without showing the actual swastika.

Actually movies are not considered Educational they are considered Entertainment. That's like saying Inglorious Basterds is educational because it has Swastikas in.

Black Ops has swastikas in Nazi Zombies and the Russian campaign segment, they've simply been removed for the German edition and replaced with iron crosses, voil

 

[MacX]

Have you honestly never played a game which you learnt from?

Any number of history-based RTS' or grand strategy titles (or even to an extent, FPS') fall into this category.

I wasn't expressing my own opinion but what the responsible persons in Germany think about the topic. They might think that it's due to the nature of playing you won't be able to fully realize the historical backgrounds and severity of WW2 and National Socialism etc.

Jorg Biermann
Actually movies are not considered Educational they are considered Entertainment. That's like saying Inglorious Basterds is educational because it has Swastikas in.

I may agree with you. Movies simply still have a different value in our society. Afterall I think Inglorious Basterds makes fun of Nazis and thus is tolerated. Otherwise German authorities would be labeled Pro-Nazi if they'd prohibit a movie like this.

 

[Stephen]

Can anyone name a (mainstream/non-cult) movie which is considered pro-Nazi?

I can't say I've seen one.

 

[hellcat420]

They should use the Swastika.

the swastika was the symbol of the nazi party, not of germany or the german army.

 

[Bluehawk]

Germany classifies games as toys for children, so they are held to a higher scrutiny for potentially dangerous content. Films, novels, music etc. are higher artistic endeavors and can explore more racy concepts.

Basically the problem is that the German government has to be convinced that video games can have artistic merit.

 

[Jorg Biermann1]

the swastika was the symbol of the nazi party, not of germany or the german army.

I think he means they should use Swastikas where the Swastikas are needed.

A few examples.
- Swastikas on Medals
- Swastikas on Uniforms
- Swastikas on Plane Rudders

For the team logo I think the Balkankreuz should be used.

Spoiler!

 

[MacX]

Can anyone name a (mainstream/non-cult) movie which is considered pro-Nazi?

I can't say I've seen one.

I'm not sure if you're reading what I'm writing...

the swastika was the symbol of the nazi party, not of germany or the german army.

The eagle sitting on the swastika was the symbol of the Wehrmacht.

 

[Sgt.Bodin]

well actualy the germans in the game are from the wheremacht wich is the german army(under the name 3rd Reich back then), The SS is from the nazi party so soldiers in the whermacht where nazis but not all of them so putting a swastika would not be right unless the SS was in Stalingrad
(someone look it up please)
the best would be to put in a iron cross
but i would like to see this one it was on the helmet of some german forces

 

[Jorg Biermann1]

well actualy the germans in the game are from the wheremacht wich is the german army(under the name 3rd Reich back then), The SS is from the nazi party so soldiers in the whermacht where nazis but not all of them so putting a swastika would not be right unless the SS was in Stalingrad
(someone look it up please)
the best would be to put in a iron cross
but i would like to see this one it was on the helmet of some german forces

Having a Swastika on your uniform doesn't mean you are a complete Nazi.. Even soldiers who weren't complete nazis would still have Swastikas on thier uniforms.

The only person I can remember who was so Anti-Nazi he refused to wear his Medals and he was a Luftwaffe Ace.

 

[Stephen]

I seem to recall many of the senior Kriegsmarine commanders being quite sceptical of the Nazi party, and some vehemently opposed to it; Raeder and L

 

[Bluehawk]

The airforce was full of Nazis, the navy was full of monarchist reactionaries and the army was a grabbag.

 

[captain max707]

I just made a thread about this in General Discussion, perhaps I should have made it in Ideas...

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=61388