What is that weird blue and gold winged symbol? Is it supposed to be some obscure WWII medal that I have never seen before?
A Balkenkreuz would look better.
A Balkenkreuz would look better.
The German team logo has to change.
- Thread starter Leto Atreides
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It Doesn't look German at all. It looks like something a Pop Star would use as a logo on their album.
The German Logo and the Russian should jsut be simple.
Balkenkreuz for the Germans
Red Star or Hammer and Sickle (Or Both)for the Russians
The German Logo and the Russian should jsut be simple.
Balkenkreuz for the Germans
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Red Star or Hammer and Sickle (Or Both)for the Russians
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While we're at it, what's this Axis vs Allies language used in the game? "The allies are capturing the barrack".
It should be Germans vs Russians. Or Wehrmacht vs Red Army. I can't imagine anyone on the eastern front seriously calling each other axis and allies. This only work when talking about the whole of WWII, not a specific front with 2 mostly homogeneous opposing forces.
It should be Germans vs Russians. Or Wehrmacht vs Red Army. I can't imagine anyone on the eastern front seriously calling each other axis and allies. This only work when talking about the whole of WWII, not a specific front with 2 mostly homogeneous opposing forces.
I've said this countless times and everytime I get called a "Nazi Fanboi". I've kind of given up asking for it being added in even though it would be VERY VERY easy to make it so countries like Germany have it censored so they see a Blakenkreuz but in other countries they see a Swastika. Hey why not even a setting so all the little kids out there that get insulted just by looking at it can turn it off? Why not called the setting (Realistic Symbols: On or Off)
I agree it should be Russians and Germans. Also this could be good for maps with Romanians, Italians or Hungarians that fought outside of Stalingrad. Maybe a Mappers choice of what it says would be good.
I don't mind the Germans being labelled the Axis (they were, along with the Roman Republic and the Shogunate of Love) but including the Soviet Union in the Allies is a bit rich. They weren't allied with anyone involved - other than, rather ironically, the Third Reich until '41 - and fought tacitly alongside the Allies (UK/US, etc.) out of sheer necessity.
Obviously I understand why TWI have done this (and it's not really a big issue for me) but clearly it's out of convenience for commonly understood faction names.
I suppose it's a bit like the United States being considered an Entente power during the Great War, when in fact they were an 'associated power' both at the time and at the peace table.
Obviously I understand why TWI have done this (and it's not really a big issue for me) but clearly it's out of convenience for commonly understood faction names.
I suppose it's a bit like the United States being considered an Entente power during the Great War, when in fact they were an 'associated power' both at the time and at the peace table.
I think it could be better as Russians or Germans are attacking because when I read the "The Axis are attacking the XXX". It kinda makes me think that its a soldier on the battlfield screaming it and I agree a Soldier would never call the Russians "Allies" and the Germans "Axis".
Thats how I see it.
It was an artistic UI choice. Not everything has to be 100% historically correct. If I wanted to be super-OCD, I could say that the Russian logo is equally as out of place, and that I want pattern M35 enamel star as the logo. It doesn't matter, the UI is more about a video game decision, not a history major decision.
I don't understand what you're talking about. The USSR was a member of the allied nations. Any book, any documentation will tell you that. Stalin and Hitler were completely at odds-post polish invasion, and the USSR was quickly added to the allied nations. The US sent millions and millions of supplies in the lend lease act to the USSR, and this definitely would not have been done if they were not an allied nation during WW2.
I understand your point entirely, but it is just political. You don't have to love your allies, but that doesn't change the fact that you are allies.
Agreed...it's a part of history, they used it, it's real, so the German side should be using it. Games always seem to shy away from swastikas (even though these games have nazis!!!) Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Day of Defeat (either original or source) used the swastika for the German flag early on aaaand they changed it. I'm not trying to sound pro-nazi but the logo now seems a little flamboyant.
Not of a fan of the German symbol either.
Not a huge deal, but it does impact immersion.
I'd love a swastika, but a Balkenkreuz would be almost as good.
Not a huge deal, but it does impact immersion.
I'd love a swastika, but a Balkenkreuz would be almost as good.
Im not even sure why they call the teams "axis" and "allies" i mean there is only one country per in the game (germans for axis and russians for allies)...
I would understand if this game encompassed a bunch of theaters of war and the developers were too lazy to write the actual country names for each map, but i dont understand why do it here.
Political correctness? Much the same way the swastika is suspiciously absent from the game?
And yes the german symbol looks weird. I know TWI is supposably into this whole realism/historical thing so why not have the coorsiponding unit insignia per map?
like in fallen fighters squar map(idk what the actual units are so im making this up)
have it be like 6th german army vs soviet 8th army and have their corresponding insignias in the team select screen
I would understand if this game encompassed a bunch of theaters of war and the developers were too lazy to write the actual country names for each map, but i dont understand why do it here.
Political correctness? Much the same way the swastika is suspiciously absent from the game?
And yes the german symbol looks weird. I know TWI is supposably into this whole realism/historical thing so why not have the coorsiponding unit insignia per map?
like in fallen fighters squar map(idk what the actual units are so im making this up)
have it be like 6th german army vs soviet 8th army and have their corresponding insignias in the team select screen
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About the Balkenkreuz:
it was only used on tanks and airplanes afaik. But the simple Iron Cross actually is the symbol for German military down to the present day. Every memorial for both of the World Wars, the Franco-German War of 1870 and also some of the Napoleonic Wars you find in Germany depicts an Iron Cross. Also it's the official symbol of the current German Army.
Whereas the swastika only stayed a symbol for the Nazi Party and its ideology.
So, I'd strongly suggest the Iron Cross.
