Two questions about death in RO2

[Nar6]

I have two questions as regards death in ro2

1 : Will a soldier scream after he is killed by a headshot ?

I seriously hope not, i guess it isnt realistic if the soldier was not saying anything once he got hit !


2 : Do we 'die' when we take multiple bullets only in the arm or in legs ?

Example : You are hiding behind something, but somebody can see your feet, he shoots you about 5 bullets or more in your foot.. Is the player instantly 'dead' ? or can still fight with a penalty or until death comes because of bleeding?

Thank you for your answers.

 

[Srinidhalaya]

I believe you can 'bleed out'. I would most certainly hope you would be considered incompacitated after 5 bullets to the leg/foot.

 

[mchaza]

Also when a bullet hits you does the current trend of having blood all over the screen happen. Its really annoying when you get shot in the back but a large amount of blood just happens to spray you in the eyes. Its okay to have if a teammate gets blown up in front of you or gets hit by a high caliber round to the head. But for being shot regularly its really annoying.

 

[Srinidhalaya]

I don't think so, regarding the blood on screen. I belive when shot, your immediatly suppressed and fatiged. Suppression causes desaturation and blured vision, hard breathing and poor aim. Fatige causes slow movement, hard breathing, poor aim, and increases suppression affect (I think).

 

[mestido]

hmm I think no metter where you gonna get 5 bullets you will die.

 

[Rattler]

hmm I think no metter where you gonna get 5 bullets you will die.

Im sure you can get hit in the a*s with five 9mm bullets, without dying.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

A game death in Red Orchestra can mean you are actually dead, or combat ineffective (passed out from pain, blood loss etc). In either case, you are useless and cannot continue fighting so you will respawn in order to keep playing.

 

[teemu92]

Bloody screen so real!

 

[heady89]

Im sure you can get hit in the a*s with five 9mm bullets, without dying.

You'd still be out of combat, and in game that is represented by death.

 

[The Algerian]

• Damage System: A detailed hit detection system. Specific bodyparts hit are more lethal than others. Instant Death, Lethal, Critical and Non-Critical. (Source: PC Gamer Article July '09)
• Bandaging: Players can bandage minor wounds to stop themselves from bleeding to death. Non-critical hits will cause half the damage instantly, with the other half occurring over bleed out time. Prompt bandaging can stop the second half of the damage from occurring. Source: PC Gamer Article July '09)

Source: [url]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698[/URL]

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

You'd still be out of combat, and in game that is represented by death.

Not necesarily. People have been shot 20+ times (by 9mm Ball specifically) and failed to be incapacitated, even though they died afterwards.

5 rounds to the limbs is plenty enough to incapacitate a normal person, but sometimes people can absorb seemingly unhuman amounts of lead and continue to fight for a while.

 

[gomer]

such a rare occurrence, it's not necessary to model it.

 

[Nar6]

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I did read it ! But it doesn't answer my 1st question and i will ask it in another way :

Will 5 non critcal hits or more at the same place kill instantly a soldier?

(Maybe i was not accurate enough in my first post)

In real life, many bullets in a leg won't stop you from shooting. Of course you will be less accurate, less concentrated, and easier to kill, but you will still be able to shoot with your gun.

This is what i want to know.
I shot someone many times in his foot, is he really dead, knowing that my shots were all non critical? Do i have to 'waste' a grenade to be sure he's dead?

I hope you really see what i mean now

 

[Maizel]

I did read it ! But it doesn't answer my 1st question and i will ask it in another way :

Will 5 non critcal hits or more at the same place kill instantly a soldier?

(Maybe i was not accurate enough in my first post)

In real life, many bullets in a leg won't stop you from shooting. Of course you will be less accurate, less concentrated, and easier to kill, but you will still be able to shoot with your gun.

This is what i want to know.
I shot someone many times in his foot, is he really dead, knowing that my shots were all non critical? Do i have to 'waste' a grenade to be sure he's dead?

I hope you really see what i mean now

That what has been posted should answer your question.

According to posted information non-critical hit will do half their damage upfront and the other half over time. So it is safe to assume that if the half of the total damage done from those 5 wounds, plus however much health is lost while bandaging each of them is more than the player's health, you will die.


Ofcourse nobody can be sure, but I'm sure you can draw some sort of conclusion or expectations from that.

 

[LegTaste]

Another way of looking at it, non critical hits will take you down to half health, and then you bleed, it could be that more non critical hits just continue the bleeding, and due to the fact you only have so many bandages you can only take a couple of non critical hits then you will bleed out.

Pair this with weakening/suppression effects as you bleed.

To me, it seems more likely then a few shots to the foot = death

 

[The Algerian]

I did read it ! But it doesn't answer my 1st question and i will ask it in another way :

Will 5 non critcal hits or more at the same place kill instantly a soldier?

It kinda does answer your question.
Let's say 1 non-critical hit in the leg takes out 45% of your health on the hit and another 45% by bleeding time.
So you take a shot and you're down to 55% of your health, plus the time you take to bandage, 20% more of your health is drained, so you're now down to 35%.
Another non critical hit takes out another 45%, which means instant death since you only had 35% left.

But then again, RO2 features what they call "slow death", so I can assume you will not really die instantly but while falling down you can still shoot a few rounds before dying.

 

[mokov]

A game death in Red Orchestra can mean you are actually dead, or combat ineffective (passed out from pain, blood loss etc). In either case, you are useless and cannot continue fighting so you will respawn in order to keep playing.

true! we dont want to wait until die in the hospital to respawn

 

[Cpt-Praxius]

hmm I think no metter where you gonna get 5 bullets you will die.

50 Cent got shot 9 times yo!

Not necesarily. People have been shot 20+ times (by 9mm Ball specifically) and failed to be incapacitated, even though they died afterwards.

SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!!!!

5 rounds to the limbs is plenty enough to incapacitate a normal person, but sometimes people can absorb seemingly unhuman amounts of lead and continue to fight for a while.

Sometimes..... and Unhuman..... I don't think we need to factor this into the gameplay.

I did read it ! But it doesn't answer my 1st question and i will ask it in another way :

Will 5 non critcal hits or more at the same place kill instantly a soldier?

(Maybe i was not accurate enough in my first post)

In real life, many bullets in a leg won't stop you from shooting. Of course you will be less accurate, less concentrated, and easier to kill, but you will still be able to shoot with your gun.

This is what i want to know.
I shot someone many times in his foot, is he really dead, knowing that my shots were all non critical? Do i have to 'waste' a grenade to be sure he's dead?

I hope you really see what i mean now

In a nutshell, you would die instantly after the 2nd or 3rd shot.... in real life, being shot 5 times in the leg has a very good chance of hitting the main artery that is located in your leg and you'd bleed out in seconds.... add on top of that 4 other bullet wounds for blood to come out of, you'd probably die faster.

And as noted, first shot takes half the damage and bleed out produces the other half..... two shots would be 100% damage, and bleeding beyond that is bonus...... so the answer would probably be no.