Well regarding your suggestion i gave my opinion in your thread you can read it when roladder is back up
but the general chat system can be used without being on the website,its not a proprietary program or whatever. Afaik it is something existing but cleverly incorporated within the website as well. (Again don't hold me to it as I'm not up to snuff on the chat part).
In general ESL's ladder is not really ideal for RO as the default ELO system they use in the advertised configuration doesn't converge fast enough for instance. Making the Elo system converge faster isn't a fix to all issues but its a step in the right direction, but ESL doesn't allow game Admins to modify the needed settings to do that. Although with leagues there is not much that can go wrong so in that sense it would be nice to have ESL pro gaming leagues.
ROLadder is a big undertaking for everybody as well, if we could get away with just signing ourselves up as Admins on ESL or Clanbase we would have probably done that and save ourselves a boat load of work. But both ESL and Clanbase lack both some technical functionality for, and is especially lacking in community features. Staying alone allows us to tailor make the site to this specific community and fully focus on optimizing things for this community.
The advantage of ESL and Clanbase lies in its marketing prowess due to a big client base and with that a famous name. The advantage of ROLadder lies more in its ability to offer a place where we can custom bring things the community asks of us or necessities towards the game. And that all our resources and time will go to this one game. A lot of the current design plans come based on an actual survey we held a while ago under clan leaders, and generic suggestions on the forums.
but the general chat system can be used without being on the website,its not a proprietary program or whatever. Afaik it is something existing but cleverly incorporated within the website as well. (Again don't hold me to it as I'm not up to snuff on the chat part).
In general ESL's ladder is not really ideal for RO as the default ELO system they use in the advertised configuration doesn't converge fast enough for instance. Making the Elo system converge faster isn't a fix to all issues but its a step in the right direction, but ESL doesn't allow game Admins to modify the needed settings to do that. Although with leagues there is not much that can go wrong so in that sense it would be nice to have ESL pro gaming leagues.
ROLadder is a big undertaking for everybody as well, if we could get away with just signing ourselves up as Admins on ESL or Clanbase we would have probably done that and save ourselves a boat load of work. But both ESL and Clanbase lack both some technical functionality for, and is especially lacking in community features. Staying alone allows us to tailor make the site to this specific community and fully focus on optimizing things for this community.
The advantage of ESL and Clanbase lies in its marketing prowess due to a big client base and with that a famous name. The advantage of ROLadder lies more in its ability to offer a place where we can custom bring things the community asks of us or necessities towards the game. And that all our resources and time will go to this one game. A lot of the current design plans come based on an actual survey we held a while ago under clan leaders, and generic suggestions on the forums.
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