Official Dwarfs?! Axe Balance Thread

[bstm300]

It's knockback OPNess is sufficiently tempered by its short reach that you still 1 or 2 other zerks to roll with you with a longer reaching weapon. If you remove the knockback effect on any type of enemy, the weapons loses it's uniqueness completely. Do not mess with this weapon.

 

[bstm300]

Killing Floor: Fleshpound Vs. Dwarf!? Axe - YouTube

Killing Fleshpounds on HoE without much effort is OP

I like how you're using a controlled laboratory experiment to prove your point. In practice, you'd be rounding corners, could potentially get stuck on rocks or doors, and you'd be fending off more enemies than just the fp. Don't try to cherry pick to win your argument. Thanks.

 

[SkullFinder123]

I like how you're using a controlled laboratory experiment to prove your point. In practice, you'd be rounding corners, could potentially get stuck on rocks or doors, and you'd be fending off more enemies than just the fp. Don't try to cherry pick to win your argument. Thanks.

I'm not saying that knockback should be removed as a whole. I'm saying that knockback should be removed from Scrakes/Fleshpounds... at least on Suc/HoE. True, the video is just a demonstration, but have you seen zerks do that in Suc? I certainly have

 

[Nnnarekkk]

I agree that is op for FPs. I was last one as medic without armor dealing with a double Fleshi and I could brake line of site fast enough so one of them raged.

It came at me with the uppercut which would instantly kill me. But knock back saved my ***.

Anyways there is no other weapon that can stop a raging FP from hitting you.
It actually takes almost no skill to knockback a raging FP in an open ma.

 

[Spicy]

It actually takes almost no skill to knockback a raging FP in an open map

I think most people on the forums would agree that playing on Mountain Pass/ Farm in general "takes almost no skill." So yes, you're correct.

 

[Nnnarekkk]

I think most people on the forums would agree that playing on Mountain Pass/ Farm in general "takes almost no skill." So yes, you're correct.

It was on WestLondon actually. And on farm those raging FP's out of nowhere can kill you instantly.

 

[SkullFinder123]

Had to be done

 

[niel85]

I agree that is op for FPs. I was last one as medic without armor dealing with a double Fleshi and I could brake line of site fast enough so one of them raged.

It came at me with the uppercut which would instantly kill me. But knock back saved my ***.

Anyways there is no other weapon that can stop a raging FP from hitting you.
It actually takes almost no skill to knockback a raging FP in an open ma.

well then its fine as it is, you had a 8weight offperk weapon for 3000 dosh in your backpack, why shouldnt you be rewarded with a life saving move for that?
i cannot see the point that proves the weapons imbalance here.

 

[Gregs2k2]

Love the Dwarf Axe. It's fine as is. Deffo keep knockback, it's what makes the axe unique. Having lots of fun with it. Only thing is, it luls you into a false sense of security by making you feel bad ***.

 

[bstm300]

One simple solution: remove the knockback effect when using the axe for every class except zerk.

 

[C_Gibby]

One simple solution: remove the knockback effect when using the axe for every class except zerk.

This is good

 

[bstm300]

Also if the tripwire devs do decide to rebalance it in some way, make the knockback effect have a 40-50% chance of occurring for every hit while possibly extending the range of the hits by a little.

 

[Sintaxx]

One simple solution: remove the knockback effect when using the axe for every class except zerk.

Now this, I can agree with. After all, it IS a zerker weapon.

 

[noob3]

Also if the tripwire devs do decide to rebalance it in some way, make the knockback effect have a 40-50% chance of occurring for every hit while possibly extending the range of the hits by a little.

No if they were to balance it they'd just increase the price of it x10 and make it useless just like the m99 is now, no one uses it anymore.

 

[Nnnarekkk]

well then its fine as it is, you had a 8weight offperk weapon for 3000 dosh in your backpack, why shouldnt you be rewarded with a life saving move for that?
i cannot see the point that proves the weapons imbalance here.

Well I bought it as zerk for 900 which is still expensive. But a raging FP for anyone without armor should be game over (except zerk which is not fair).

 

[Spicy]

No if they were to balance it they'd just increase the price of it x10 and make it useless just like the m99 is now, no one uses it anymore.

It's actually still really easy to obtain, even with the smaller money pool that Hell on Earth gives you. You simply need a team that wants to support the weapon financially. But yes, much, much less common to see it. I miss spamming it at groups of crawlers.

 

[Jario9]

I haven't used it as a Bezerker, but from what I have seen like others using it, it seems fine.

 

[Benjamin]

One simple solution: remove the knockback effect when using the axe for every class except zerk.

So only the berserker has the game-breaking feature? I suppose that would be one step closer to balancing it.

 

[Lippa]

So only the berserker has the game-breaking feature? I suppose that would be one step closer to balancing it.

Because the dwarf axe is really gamebreaking lmfao come on people get real that thing is utter garbage as it is, dwarf axe has 70% less range than the Claymore does 5 extra damage per swing and a much smaller AoE compared to the Claymores swing speex of 1.05 to the axes god awful 1.4. You think that silly knockback is worth all those disadvantages? Absolutely not. A berserker can tank MULTIPLE hits from a fleshpound as it is. Crouch and alt fire Claymore while team focuses fire that fp won't live to throw out more than one hit

 

[Merdic]

The Dwarfs!? Axe is clearly meant to be carried by a demo paired with the M32.