I'm finding the comparison of the preview's resistance system to warframe's resistance system ironic.
While I agree that warframe's system is overall much better than KF2's in the preview, both are actually really lacking and in need of a rework to make them much less intrusive on the respective, "end games" of both games.
Warframe's system does start to turn into to bullet sponge hell at the highest level, it's true, even with weapons correctly tuned for what you're fighting. But the scale there is pretty gradual, and you can almost ignore damage types and resistances, and just know based on the enemy level how tough they'll be for you to kill. Almost. In higher level missions where they mix up the enemy types, damage type vs. armor can leave you fighting an enemy you have almost no prayer of killing once their HP is scaled up due to their level.
Like I said, I think WF and KF are looking at the same issue from two different design philosophies. WF's, up until the max level of difficulty, is that players running around being awesome and killing stuff is what's most important. KF seems to be coming from the direction of "every enemy should be a struggle to bring down." WF is as focused on player advantage due to resistances as the enemy's advantage. KF, by contrast, seems wholly focused on enemy advantages from resistances. To the point Berzerker gets a 50% damage nerf.
So Warframe isn't perfect either but I feel like it's a gradual slope of increasing sponginess. It's just players there are so OP that the devs have to go to extremes to provide a real challenge. Which is why the majority of the game is easy killing, punctuated by special events of "OMG WTF is this?"
All I can say is that when I'm playing WF and an enemy just inexplicably is taking no damage from one or more of my weapons, I find it an irritant. "What stupid combination am I running afoul of now", I think. And in the high level missions, it can be downright problematic. At least in Warframe you're Space Ninja and can wall run and power jump and slide your way to safety to figure something out or kite. KF by comparison is like fighting in a shoe box wearing concrete sneakers.
If TWI wants husks to be a bigger threat, make them shoot fireballs faster like they did in KF1. Nobody is going to take the husk as a serious ranged threat when he takes 30 seconds winding up like a baseball pitcher between each shot. Making them tanky annoying zeds with indestructible heads is not the correct answer.
I'd maybe disagree here. 1 Husk you can pay attention to isn't all that threatening, true. When you get three or more of them with LOS on you though, that "wind up pitch" seems pretty appropriate. Multiple Husks keep up a pretty steady stream of fire as it is, so, making them shoot faster may seem good for a single Husk, but would probably make multiple Husks an enormous problem. It's AoE after al.
The size of them? The colour? The lighting? Must I go on?
By all means, let me. Their speed. Their movement animations. Their hit boxes. Their numbers. Their approach angles. Their leap.
As explained before, sirens and bloats die to a couple of hits from any automatic weapon. It may be 1-3 more depending on which you use but they are still no real threat.
It's a compounding problem though. When each ZED takes that much more attention and bullets to kill, you're building up a deficit versus the previous (plenty challenging IMO) gameplay. As the round length, spawn numbers, player numbers and difficulty increases, this Killing Deficit just grows larger and larger. It's offset by perks, but as he pointed out above, these are
all effective nerfs done to Perks done through a meta-game system. Did the game need another meta damage modifier thrown into the mix? Did they feel they'd made the game too easy by buffing perks to player expectations and so couldn't turn around and then nerf them again to achieve the kind of gameplay they wanted, so they created a whole new layer of damage mechanics to tweak difficulty with? Because Berzerker now does half damage with all their perk weapons. If they needed to reign Berzerker back in, they could have just directly modified Berzerker.
I suspect they wanted variance instead of straight across the board nerfs (which Berzerker effectively got anyways.) But they've been overzealous about it. And perks that already weren't all that great in some situations (Demo, Support, Medic on the offense) now have additional complications. I really liked using off-perk weapons on Demo and Medic but now I hardly see the sense in it.
