ogledow doesnt have tigers.. you'll need blackdayjuly or krivoirog
Its too bad the tank load-out was not very realistic on Ro1
ogledow doesnt have tigers.. you'll need blackdayjuly or krivoirog
Problem is that RO-blackdayjuly's achievements are broken
Problem is that RO-blackdayjuly's achievements are broken and nobody plays RO-krivoirog anymore.
Its too bad the tank load-out was not very realistic on Ro1 because really all CA and tank maps should have a good number of T-34/76's in them as the T-34/85 never actually replaced them ( the T-34/76 remained the most common tank until the end of the war). Instead we have an instant T-34/85 arrival as soon as its 1944...
The point is or rather was that the T-34/85 should not magically replace the T-34/76 the instant its 1944 like what happens on most Ro stock and custom maps like RO-arad, Barashka,etc...There should be a lot more T-34/76's present in large quantities in a 1944-1945 scenarios rather than unrealistically replacing them with T-34/85's. By your own posted production numbers you can see that the T-34/76 had a much higher vehicle output on which was felt at the front-lines as is corroborated by '44-45 reports. It was not until the spring of 1944 that the T-34/85 reached the front-line in "significant numbers" and even then it was not until August-September of 1944 that it became a "common design" and yet there were still more T-34/76's in use even as the Red army rolled into Berlin in 1945.RiccardoTheBeAst said:uhm...russians produced about 18.000 T-34/85...i think that this is a good number for only 18 months of production...
Yes, I do not know what the obsession is with that tank as it was not only one of the least produced tanks of the war having only 175 vehicles produced in total it had virtually no real impact on the war and at best was an obsure footnote in the technical history of the Panzer IV tank. The way its put in maps and games these days makes you think the complete opposite I suspect it is chosen as its probably one of the worst Panzer IV models produced not due to some design flaws rather because its typically expected to contend with later war tanks from 1944-1945 even though its a thinly armored obscure 1942 vehicle.... rather than one of the more common Panzer IV's (G,H,J) I listed which would have much better armor protection and modernizations.Tank! said:Panzer IV F2
The point is or rather was that the T-34/85 should not magically replace the T-34/76 the instant its 1944 like what happens on most Ro stock and custom maps like RO-arad, Barashka,etc...There should be a lot more T-34/76's present in large quantities in a 1944-1945 scenarios rather than unrealistically replacing them with T-34/85's. By your own posted production numbers you can see that the T-34/76 had a much higher vehicle output on which was felt at the front-lines as is corroborated by '44-45 reports. It was not until the spring of 1944 that the T-34/85 reached the front-line in "significant numbers" and even then it was not until August-September of 1944 that it became a "common design" and yet there were still more T-34/76's in use even as the Red army rolled into Berlin in 1945.
Anyway here's another comparison for you:
The Panzer IV and Panther had much closer production numbers for example they made 7,219 long gunned Panzer IV (75mm L/43-L/48) and 6,176 Panther tanks in total however the Panther never fully replaced the Panzer IV.
Production chart:
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Panzer IV G...1,687
Panzer IV H...3,774
Panzer IV J....1,758
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Panther D...850
Panther A...2,200
Panther G...3,126
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Yes, I do not know what the obsession is with that tank as it was not only one of the least produced tanks of the war having only 175 vehicles produced in total it had virtually no real impact on the war and at best was an obsure footnote in the technical history of the Panzer IV tank. The way its put in maps and games these days makes you think the complete opposite I suspect it is chosen as its probably one of the worst Panzer IV models produced not due to some design flaws rather because its typically expected to contend with later war tanks from 1944-1945 even though its a thinly armored obscure 1942 vehicle.... rather than one of the more common Panzer IV's (G,H,J) I listed which would have much better armor protection and modernizations.