Official Tank Issues Thread

[Sichartshofen]

This is not about suggesting tanks or bad mouthing the devs. Post any issues you've had with the tanks and anti-tank weapons in RO:O.

To start off I'll mention what worked in the beta version of the game and now what is missing in the full game.

Beta Version ( not the UT2004 mod)

- Ammo storage hitbox worked
- Engine hitbox worked
- Panzerfaust had an impact sound and effect.

Full Game

- Ammo storage hitbox no longer works with tank cannons or the Panzerfaust.

- The PTRD is the only weapon that can destroy German tanks with 1 shot to the ammo.

- Engines on tanks can no longer be disabled.

- Only engines on the half track and armored car can be disabled with gun fire and He rounds.

- There is no Panzerfaust impact sound or effect. The round simply disappears into the tank.

- Grenades can kill the crew of a tank if thrown underneath it. Belly plate exploit.

- Grenades kill men inside armored vehicles when they explode outside of them.

- SU-76 gun plate deflects 75mm, 88mm and panzerfaust rounds.

- 88mm rounds bounce off T34's, even at extremely close range.

- T60 20mm cannon is over powered. Even battlefield.ru says it's useless
against German tanks. It would only be able to penetrate the side armor of the Panzer III and rear and side of the Panzer IV F1 and StuGIII at 50 meters.

- All tanks require 2 shots to destroy no matter where you aim, this is the norm of tank combat. There are rare times when someone gets a 1 hit kill on a undamaged tank.

- Deflection is ridiculously over done.

I've tested every tank with Wilsonams data sheets. They don't work.

 

[ramsy66]

Basically your saying that the tank combat sucks compared to 3.3? I don't remember playing 3.3, I only played a few of the infantry missions then got bored, to be honest I don't think I even knew there was vehicle maps....

 

[Sichartshofen]

I'm not comparing it to the mod! It's the BETA version of the game that people won keys for before the full game was released.

 

[MkH^]

Haven't played the beta, but I agree with all your points 110%. The tank combat is seriously screwed up.

 

[ShadowbaneX]

one thing I have to add is the panther deflecting IS2 rounds at close range...even if the tank is coming down a hill so that it's sloped armour presents a 90 degree angle.

 

[Vietnow]

mostly true except all tanks treads can be disabled. (its happen to me in many of them even the IS-2)

 

[Formaldehyde]

Good post. You hit on all the major problems. Realism/feeling like "you are there(without the agony)"=fun.

 

[DarkWarrior]

I don't play the beta but I think the developers should change to the old system. This game is very realistic but the Tank fights are unrealistic. You need only 2 hits (mostly) and you kill the enemy. http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?o=3003;style=;iservice=en-de;query=mostly

http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?o=3003;style=;iservice=en-de;query=unrealistic

 

[ShadowbaneX]

mostly true except all tanks treads can be disabled. (its happen to me in many of them even the IS-2)

this reminded me of something that happened last night. We were being fired upon in an IS2 on the right side, but our left track got disabled. Really confused me.

 

[DarkWarrior]

Can you post a picture of a disabled track? I never saw this in the game

 

[Sichartshofen]

A tank with it's tracks shot off doesn't look any different. It will just make clankering sound that you might hear.

 

[kfnguy2]

This is not about suggesting tanks or bad mouthing the devs. Post any issues you've had with the tanks and anti-tank weapons in RO:O.

To start off I'll mention what worked in the beta version of the game and now what is missing in the full game.

Beta Version ( not the UT2004 mod)

- Ammo storage hitbox worked
- Engine hitbox worked
- Panzerfaust had an impact sound and effect.

Full Game

- Ammo storage hitbox no longer works with tank cannons or the Panzerfaust.

- The PTRD is the only weapon that can destroy German tanks with 1 shot to the ammo.

- Engines on tanks can no longer be disabled.

- Only engines on the half track and armored car can be disabled with gun fire and He rounds.

- There is no Panzerfaust impact sound or effect. The round simply disappears into the tank.

- Grenades can kill the crew of a tank if thrown underneath it. Belly plate exploit.

- Grenades kill men inside armored vehicles when they explode outside of them.

- SU-76 gun plate deflects 75mm, 88mm and panzerfaust rounds.

- 88mm rounds bounce off T34's, even at extremely close range.

- T60 20mm cannon is over powered. Even battlefield.ru says it's useless
against German tanks. It would only be able to penetrate the side armor of the Panzer III and rear and side of the Panzer IV F1 and StuGIII at 50 meters.

- All tanks require 2 shots to destroy no matter where you aim, this is the norm of tank combat. There are rare times when someone gets a 1 hit kill on a undamaged tank.

I've tested every tank with Wilsonams data sheets. They don't work.

As usual we forgot to mention the 122mm cannon of the IS2 and it's lack of power like every other heavy tank.

 

[daschewy]

don't forget that angling plays way to much importance. I've had shots from my tiger deflect off of BA-64's.

 

[Sichartshofen]

As usual we forgot to mention the 122mm cannon of the IS2 and it's lack of power like every other heavy tank.

Lack of power? Yeah right!

 

[axhat]

Last night there were 3 of us in russ tanks, and 1 guy in a tiger. I planted 2 rounds on the turret and 1 on the treads before he ever saw me. In fact, he pulled rite in front of me w/o knowing I was there. I was a bout 10 feet away on his 3 o'clock and let one more round go into the turrete compartment, he simply turned and blew me away w/ one shot.
I figured it was just a testament to the strength of the tiger, respawned and headed back to the scene of the crime. By this time, there were 2 more 34's scoring direct hits on the same tiger ( was very close to our spawn). I saw at least 4 more solid hits on the tiger before he dispatched of one other 34 and then my own.....again. I left in disgust before I could see the fate of the remaing 34.
I love this game, but it was absolutely rediculous how survivable this tiger was. I had killed plenty of them before this particular incident.
Just my 2 cents, most of the time I dont notice anything out of the ordinary, but this was just too much.


Still the best WW2 fps I've ever played...

Cheers!

 

[kfnguy2]

Lack of power? Yeah right!

Please don't tell me the 88mm of the tiger is underpowered because some of it's shots get deflected when fighting t-34's and IS-2 at < 300 meters shooting at the front of a Stug and it bouncing of numerous times over is normal. Please quit the biases and be considerate here of both sides heavy tanks. Their cannons all seem to be underpowered.

 

[Theodrake]

Can you post a picture of a disabled track? I never saw this in the game

Externally you don't see anything. If you are in the tank it will turn red and you are stuck. In a Stug its death. I've had engines turn red and then drive off???

There is a another bug. Its rare, but I have seen a silouette of a tanks engine through the armor. I aimed for that and got a kill on a T-34. After first bouncing the shell off of the rear at less then 30 meters. I was then able to put a round through the wheels on the right hand side.

 

[raydude]

I have seen many instances of 1-hit tank kills. Sometimes they were done to me, other times I have done it. I have been tread disabled many times.

However, I do recall a curious event just a few days ago:

I was in Ogledow map, in a Panzer IV by myself - near the farm. A T-34 in Ogledow hit my front side, putting me in the red. I quickly retreated to cover until one of my teammates could take it out.

So here I am, in a Pz IV that's all red. I advance out of cover and over the course of 2-3 minutes take out a T-34 on the hill (flank shot), a T-34 behind a wall (frontal shot) and a T-34 in the village (frontal shot) - all 1-hit kills.

Which made me wonder - maybe there's a bug wherein your gun becomes "super" capable once your tank is red?

This needs to be explored by other people.

 

[Heinz]

I was going to start a thread like this. for all intents and purposes, one-shot kills are as rare as a rational thought in an Algore speech. the only time I have seen them occur with any frequency is when a JS-2 is up against a PzKw IV. And that's about it.

The OP hit it right on the head, IMO.

 

[D3terioNation]

My biggest gripe is the dissapearing tank shells!

Pisses right off!!!