Killing Floor 2: Summer Update Beta 2 Is Now Live for PC!

[flashn00b]

The Crossboom is still pretty underwhelming on Demolitionist. I still think the best way to go about its 10 Ballistic_Shell damage would be to give the bolts their own damage type, so as to enable Bloat decapitations while also dealing more impact damage to Scrakes than the M79 Grenade Launcher, but still be significantly worse than the RPG-7.

 

[simplecat]

Sentinel damage from 8 to 10
Bash ROF from 45 to 79 / 90 (have spare drones / no spare drones)

Scrake and Fleshpound shrink modifier from 0.2 to 0.1. Now takes twice more ammo to shrink-kill (should be exact 100 ammo without missing)
QuarterPound shrink modifier from 0.3 to 0.2

HRG Head Hunter alt fire recharge time from 5 to 3.5 seconds
HRG Head Hunter's alt-fire still does only body damage, that patch note was probably not included

HRG CrossBoom weight from 7 to 6

in Arsenal Ascend, the HRG Bastion is removed from tier 24 (last) and now there's a chance to instead acquire HRG Arc Generator. Bastion was moved from tier 24 to 19, Arc Generator - vice versa.

 

[OnionBubs]

The weight thing doesn't really fix the problems inherent to the CrossBoom, which is that it's bad at pretty much everything compared to the rest of Demo's arsenal, RPG or otherwise, at least where 6P HoE is concerned.

Versatility means absolutely nothing if everything the weapon can do is garbage and/or just flat out done better by other weapons...which, in this case, its closest competitor is the M79.

 

[Aleflippy]

I fully agree with @OnionBubs , the issue with the Crossboom wasn't really the weight to begin with (although it's not a bad thing to have more versatility in your weapon choices... usually). It's really the damage that doesn't really cut it. And again, I cannot even tell you to pump it up to T3 or something because then it would clash with the Seal Squeal.

I guess I'm just not sold on the weapon from its very premise :/

 

[Spoke]

No removal of flashbangs on survivalist so i guess it's intended?

 

[AntonUserName]

Another update that only causes disappointment, the developers don’t even want to think about the fact that there is very little content in their game, the size of the game is large, and all the changes made return interest for another week and that’s it, but apparently it’s more important for developers to turn into TF2 at minimum when the game develops at the expense of the community at a snail's pace

 

[Yoshiro]

No removal of flashbangs on survivalist so i guess it's intended?

It was, but it is an ongoing conversation right now internally.

 

[Aleflippy]

Another update that only causes disappointment, the developers don’t even want to think about the fact that there is very little content in their game, the size of the game is large, and all the changes made return interest for another week and that’s it, but apparently it’s more important for developers to turn into TF2 at minimum when the game develops at the expense of the community at a snail's pace

Now I do find this unfair. It's actually the opposite : the game suffers from a lot of feature creep. In other words: it has TOO MANY stuff going on, especially weapon-wise. Some guns overlap with each other, while some are simply not as good as others more ubiquitous options (which are often either more versatile, or more efficient in a given role).

They're also consistently released updates for SEVEN years. Much longer than most games nowadays.


Now it is true that a lot of people are probably coming back to the game every three months to try the new guns and complete the event's objectives and not much else... but it doesn't just come from updates that add "little". In fact, it mostly stems from the fact that updates all follow the same path (between 2-4 new weapons, 1 or 2 new maps, and MAAAYBE some balance changes). So the effect of surprise clearly isn't there anymore. And well... Again, it's a seven years old game. It's only natural that most people went on to play other things really.


As for my personal review of the update, now that I've completed all objectives :

-HRG Headhunter : Absolutely atrocious and unfun to play with. I guess the blast wave is quite powerful, but it's a chore to get all three darts planted (and you can only do so twice before reloading). The idea to have the altfire tied to a cooldown is also atrocious considering you already do abysmal damage with the primary. It really needs a full rework. I believe NOT having the cooldown would already be much better. Or make it less expensive so it can be truly used as a "tool" gun.

-HRG Crossboom : I warmed up to it a little. It's surprisingly fun to shish-kebab zeds from afar, only to see them blow to smithereens. But even fully upgraded, it's fairly unreliable against big zeds... A problem, considering it's the main role of the Demo. I also find the option to choose between a concentrated explosion and a wider one fairly... artificial? I mean, you got skills to develop one or the other. And in most cases, you could just... fire at the center of a crowd if you wanted to abuse the splash damage. So it's not THAT good, but it adds a little flavor to the weapon. It's also great that it's a T2.5... But maybe it should even be a proper T2, like the Crossbow? But then again, I guess people would skip the M79 even more. I guess that, like many other newer guns, it suffers from an identity crisis. But it's a fun gun once upgraded once or twice.

-Reducto Ray : Stupidly awesome ! I really didn't expect a new Microwave Gun, but it's eons better than a griefer gun that would have made it harder for everybody to kill even a crawler. It chews through its ammo super fast though, and seems to be affected by blocking zeds (hence how you can deplete a whole mag on a simple Gorefiend...). It's a pure trash cleaner, and arguably one of the best guns to kill EDARs' with ! It's ludicrous, even by Killing Floor standards, but at least it's fun to use.

-Sentinel : The slight damage upgrade already made it much better. At least it can kill trash zeds reliably now ! I also noticed that it aims for the weak points, or maybe I was just lucky? (But it applied to both sirens and EDARs for example). It will still sit in a weird corner as I can't see Commandos foregoing a better gun or upgrade for what is essentially a glorified "extra player", but I'm sure it will find some use in latter waves where it can cover your ass a little. At the very least, it's on the upper grade of "tool" weapons, like the C4 !

-Survivalist rework : simple and effective. It does what it says on the can and I really like it. Should have been there since the inclusion of the perk really... But better late than never. I might be playing the Survivalist a little more often. A little.

-Arsenal Ascent : it's very fun ! Although I wish we had a few different "paths" chosen at random. It's also absolutely boring solo-wise. You should definitely play it with a couple of friends. Speaking of which, I kinda expected the mode to be fully PvP. As it stands, it doesn't really matter if you're the first to reach the last level... Which kinda ruins the very purpose of a "Gun Game" mod. But it's still interesting to readapt constantly to new guns, especially when you suddenly get a M99 AMR in your hands...

-Rig : as planned, I really love the map ! I believe the underground laboratory is unnecessary and really drags us back to that "overrun lab/military building" aesthetic that plagues far too many maps. Because otherwise, I really dig the vibe ! It really reminds me of early KF2 maps, when you toured across Europe in quirky locations (Catacombs obviously come to mind, but also Black Forest for example). I'll give it a rest now that I've completed 100 waves on it... But it's a good map !

 

[CitronVert]

medic nerf when

 

[OnionBubs]

So from my testing, the part where the Reducto Ray can Mouse1 away all your problems has been fixed-ish, in that holding down the Mouse1 button now takes basically an entire clip to kill a Fleshpound. OK, that's a start.
However, tap-firing the weapon like the old-school Microwave Gun still does that thing where damage lingers after the beam model technically stops firing, meaning you can tap-fire Zeds to death in half a mag.

Oops.

I still don't get the logic behind a debuff that's meant specifically for Demo/Bug/Zerk when those are the perks that would arguably need them the least. Or why this weapon's so good when compared to the Headhunter, which is a support tool for headshot perks that is good at neither of those things.

-HRG Headhunter : Absolutely atrocious and unfun to play with. I guess the blast wave is quite powerful, but it's a chore to get all three darts planted (and you can only do so twice before reloading). The idea to have the altfire tied to a cooldown is also atrocious considering you already do abysmal damage with the primary. It really needs a full rework. I believe NOT having the cooldown would already be much better. Or make it less expensive so it can be truly used as a "tool" gun.

The issue with the gun applying bodyshot damage on the alt-fire instead of headshot damage is still at large (ha), so that's part of the problem.

But the weapon is so clunky that I can't imagine any Sharpshooters worth their salt taking it even if it were fixed: the people who can hit headshots reliably-ish are already the ones self-selecting for Sharpshooter and they don't need it; the weapon still requires some degree of accuracy to use but without a substantial reward so I don't see it making any converts.

And yes, blocking means that the alt-fire does basically nothing. It even re-shrinks the head!

I imagine some Survivalists will run it because that's what people do.

Another update that only causes disappointment, the developers don’t even want to think about the fact that there is very little content in their game, the size of the game is large, and all the changes made return interest for another week and that’s it, but apparently it’s more important for developers to turn into TF2 at minimum when the game develops at the expense of the community at a snail's pace

There is already too much in this game and too much of it is unpolished; please stop.

 

[dersenk]

just launch summer update

 

[arcwarden]

hallo TW its already over 16-17? days since beta2 ended where is summer update ?

 

[SnapJackalPop]

hallo TW its already over 16-17? days since beta2 ended where is summer update ?

I was wondering the same thing. The achievement list for the game on Xbox has updated I noticed, so I thought it would be today. Must be next week then?

 

[Yoshiro]

We should have that announcement soon I am told!

 

[Sarcy]

Likely far too late to bring up but would it be possible to enable DieSector for all viable modes as I feel it is wasted being Endless-only.

 

[arcwarden]

any chance to launch summer update topday ?

 

[Yoshiro]

any chance to launch summer update topday ?

No, but I would say tomorrow is highly likely!