Jack Thompson harrassing little old ladies now

[Donut]

Yeah sure
Because I don't see the evil government lurking around every corner like you do. Guys like you crack me up: Your so convinced that every single action taken by the government or some other institution is meant to limit your freedom or make your life worse in some other way. But in the end that is just want you want isn't it? You want to beleive that everything is a giant scheme but of course you are among the chosen elite that actually sees through it all while the others are, as you say, "sock puppets". All is vanity.

What it boils down to is you're just very afraid of being unimportant.

ALOT of people are afraid of being unimnportant, thats why "reality" tv is so popular. People want to be know, liked, remembered, ect. And Im sorry, but yes, the US government at least, IS putting more restrictions on its citizens. I find it odd that out president says, "They hate our freedom", and then puts more restrictions on them. By the way, Kraut, anarchy's greastest victory would be its own defeat. If there WERE true global anarchy, people would form groups for self protection/resource polling, ect. Therefore, no more anarchy.

 

[Fedorov]

we are all slaves to the power of death...

Iron Maiden can't be wrong

 

[Grobut]

ya know people, the word you dont want to hear now is mantra. if he keeps on saying it, people will start to believe it, think about it, he gets out to many people who know and hear nothing fromt he gaming industry, if those people continue to hear him, but no refutes, then they will believe him.

Very true, i think we have all heard the quote "if you repeat a lie often enough, it becomes the truth", sadly this is a prooven concept, it actually works, so rebuttal is important, given how much airtime this maniac has been given by the media.

he does have some semi good points ( i cant believe im saying this ).. those being that really young children shouldent play very violent vid games. but where hes wrong is saying that because of that the games should go poof, its the parents fault. if you cant raise your kid and teach him/her what is right and wrong, and you use the tv/compy as the baby sitter, then you are a moron.

Thats not his point at all though, if we where just talking small kids here, then i think most of us would agree that they should rather be playing Mario-Kart than Manhunt, but Jacko doesen't stop there, ohh no, he belives that adults should not play thease games either, that anyone exposed to thease evil vile "murder simulators" (that includes games like Halo BTW, not just games like Manhunt) can damage the psyche of anyone who plays them, and will turn them into derranged killers.
That is why he constantly claims that the military is using Halo as a training tool to make soldiers ready to kill.. well usually he says "snipers" because that sounds more scary


But thats the thing about thease flavour of the month issues, it is scapegoating, its trying to blame all the worlds problems on something that is easy to understand, and can be banned so the issue can be put to rest untill the next scapegoat comes along.
But the world doesen't work like that, it is a very complex place where many many things interact to create our invironment.

 

[Oldih]

For some reason, Jack Thompson always reminds me of this:

 

[Colt .45 killer]

hrmm grobut i had heard some of that before, some of the compilation videos i was watchin on page one were him blabbing about how youngings shouldent be playing these games. this guy is rather pathetic though, imo most of the violent games are more often stress relievers as opposed to brain washers that turn us all into murderers.

just immagine, if that was real, what would the world be like after 8 million people started playing WOW....

 

[Murphy]

It seems it doesn't. But it's a fail-safe against morons, so that they don't raise up more morons. Now, if I were a parent, I wouldn't feel that too much of my liberty would be taken away by a game that would be rated "mature audiences only".
Sure, my kids could disagree, but it would be up to the authorities to prove that I would be taking away from their personal freedom by prohibiting my kid to play games I'd feel were inapropriate for him/her.
And with moronic parents who don't care, or who lack the imagination, someone has to make the effort for them. Naive, innit, no?

I'm all for a good age restriction for buying games! Kids shouldn't be allowed to just go to a store and buy a military simulation, liquor or porn.

However they should be allowed to own it, for example if a parent bought it and gave it to them. If they think it's appropriate it should be their decision.

For example I could think that "Fable" is appropriate for a 12 year-old because the reason for it's higher rating are the so-called sex scenes and the possibility to marry male NPCs. Neither of which is a problem for me so I decide to give it to my son. No one should be allowed to take that decision for me.

It should not be the governments decision, nor should it be the shop's decision, though unfortunately the latter is the bigger problem at the moment - and the one that is harder to solve too.

Some stores refuse to sell AO rated games AT ALL - not just to minors! - because they fear the angry mob of over-opinionated moms.
This means that while there is no real enforced censorship there is a lot of self-inflicted censorship for the sake of a commercial success.

So the reason for censorship isn't as dark as that of an intrusive government censoring our movies/games but the end-result is pretty much the same.
I don't care whether Spielberg covered up the guns of the FBI agents in E.T. with Walkie-Talkies to get a lower rating or if the government did it for him. The result for me is a ridiculous scene in a movie.
Well, bad example because E.T. was never endangered with getting an AO rating, but you should get my drift.

censorship = censorship
Be it an economic censorship or a political one.



The main problem in this case and in many others is that people are way too up-tight. If that would change we wouldn't have discussions like these and frankly I'd be tempted to say that there wouldn't be as many shoot-outs either!

 

[I. Kant]

I concur.

And lets hope that when a moronic parent who doesn't take any interest in whether Cannibal Simulator 2020 might cause detrimental changes in the psyche of their children notices that "AO" label on the box, some stray neuron will tell them "uh-oh, this is no-no for my sweet baby-girl".