Diffrent Tank rounds

[Nebfer]

One thing I would like to see is diffrent rounds for the tank guns. (other than what we have now.) It would be nice to have the option of -Do I use one of my limited APCR rounds or should I use a HEAT round insted?
well heres a list of rounds that the more comen tank guns on the eastern front had/used.

German
20mm Kwk 30 & 38 (Pz 2, PSW 222, PSW 231 & PSW 234/1)
AP zgr
APCR: Pzgr 40

37mm Kwk ?? (Pz 3, Pz 35(t) & 38(t))
AP zgr
APCR zgr 40
HE?

50mm Kwk 38 & 39 (Pz 3 & PSW 234/2)
AP zgr
APC : PzGr 39
APCR : Pzgr 40
HE

75mm Kwk 37 (L24) (Pz 3N, Pz 4 PSW 233, PSW 234/3, StuG 3)
APC zgr
HEAT :Gr.38 Hl/A/B/C
HE
Smoke??

75mm Kwk 40 & Kwk 42 (L43, L48 & L70) (StuG 3, Pz 4, Pz 5, JgPz 38(t), JgPz 4 & PSW 234/4)
APCBC zgr 39
APCR : Pzgr 40
HEAT :Gr.38 Hl/B/C
HE

88mm Kwk 36 (& Kwk 43) (Pz 6H, Pz 6B & JgPz 5)
APCBC : Pzgr 39
APCR : Pzgr 40
HEAT :Gr.39 Hl
HE

105mm StuH 42 (StuH 42)
AP : Pzgr
APCBC : Pzgr
HEAT :Gr 39 Hl/A/B/C
HE
Smoke??

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Soviet guns
20mm TNSh 1 (T-60)
AP
APCR

45mm (various) (T-26, BT-7 & T70)
AP :BR-240
APCR : BR-240P
HE?

57mm Zis -4 (T-34)
AP :BR??
APCR :BR??
HE?

76mm F34 (KV-1 & T-34)
APBC : BR-350A/B/C
APCR : BR-350P
HEAT : BR-353
HE

76mm Zis 3 (SU-76)
APBC :BR-??
HEAT :BR-??
HE

85mm (Vairous) Zis -53 & D -5T (T-34 & SU 85)
AP :BR-365K
APBC :BR-365
APCR :BR-365P
HE

100mm D -10S & D -10T (SU-100)
AP :BR-412
APBC :BR-412B(D)
HE

122mm (various) D -25 & A -19 (SU & ISU 122, IS-2)
AP : BR-471
APBC :BR-471B
HEAT :BR-460A
HE

152mm ML -20 (SU & ISU 152)
AP:BR-540
APBC :BR-540B
HE

Notes
issue dates for Soviet APCR is 1942 for 45mm, 1943 for 57 & 76mm and 1944 for 85mm. by 1944 most tanks had at lest four rounds of APCR.

German APCR was generly withdrawn by late 1943, though limited production for some guns went on untill mid 1944 (I.e. 50mm Pak 38). though limited numbers of rounds where avalibe for "special use"...

 

[Oi!Oi!Oi!]

Panzer III has APCR.

 

[Nebfer]

True but it dose not have (at the moment) HE or "normal" AP rounds. (well it can eather have HE or APCR but not both.)

Well what im sugesting is insted of just two types of shells each would have three to five kinds of rounds.

for example a Panzer IV "G" durring 1943 would have something like this
(It carried 87 rounds)
APCBC ~37
APCR ~5
HEAT ~5
HE ~35
Smoke ~5

A T-34/76 M41 would have
(It carried 76 rounds)
APBC ~26
APCR ~5
HEAT ~5
HE ~30
HE-Frag? ~5
Smoke? ~5

 

[D3terioNation]

Let them fix the reload system on tanks first

Who knows, they might even add more types of rounds at the same time

 

[Mormegil]

I would think the heat rounds would be the easier to implement. They can lift the damage model from the fausts.

The others may be a nightmare as that increases the complexity of the penetration model they currently have.

Right now they're only dealing with the penetration for the AP rounds (actually APCBC for Germans and APBC for Russians) and the occasional APCR. I would expect determining the ballistics for all the other round types might be a pain.


Well, I hope it eventually get implemented.

I'm really hoping for smoke rounds. Right now, firing HE rounds in front of Tigers just doesn't cut it.