Bodies don't respond to bullets after death

[CapitalistDog]

I've noticed that bodies don't seem to be affected by bullets after they're dead, to the point where I'll kill someone with an SMG and only the first 3 or so bullets have any effect on the animation and the rest just go through as though a body isn't even there anymore.

Personally, I think it'd be cool if all the bullets register when they hit dead bodies, but I guess this might be done on purpose for performance or somethign like that?

Just a thought while playing...

 

[Stellar73]

Agree, was a bit dissapointed when noticed this lack of feature

 

[Hells High]

I would like the ability to increase the lifespan of ragdolls for the people that can handle it. Not sure if there is a way to do it client side or not. As for the OP, I kinda like being able to shoot a dead body and watch it react/receive bullet hole decals/etc. Call it morbid amusement.

 

[zYnthetic]

I would like the ability to increase the lifespan of ragdolls for the people that can handle it. Not sure if there is a way to do it client side or not. As for the OP, I kinda like being able to shoot a dead body and watch it react/receive bullet hole decals/etc. Call it morbid amusement.

If it was clientside it would kind of defeat the purpose of using bodies as camo/cover.

 

[Panzer Jager '43]

It's a very common problem with most ragdoll engines. I'd also expect that if Tripwire did plan on changing it, it'd be very low priority...

 

[Skunk992]

My issue with dead bodies is that it may be blocking your view, but it might not be blocking the other guys view. So many times and I been looking across the map and a dead body is between me and another guy's head.. He can see me, but I can't see him, and I am killed.

 

[leguizamo2040]

Just a few more seconds of lifespan would be enough. It would be so satisficing to keep shooting an enemy when he's on his knees.

I thought ragdolls were client side.

 

[Hells High]

If it was clientside it would kind of defeat the purpose of using bodies as camo/cover.

Good point. Although, in most source engine games they are client side, as some people will end up with ragdolls in different positions than other players.

Server side ragdolls would fix that, but having added physics like being able to shoot them could put added strain on the server.

(All purely speculation based on my limited dev knowledge, as I have no idea how it is coded.)

 

[CapitalistDog]

Just a few more seconds of lifespan would be enough. It would be so satisficing to keep shooting an enemy when he's on his knees.

I thought ragdolls were client side.

Agreed, just a few more seconds is all that is needed.

 

[Freshmeat]

There is a tactical aspect of this as well. If a stiff turns stiff immediately , you know he is gone and don't shoot him any more. Otherwise you will have to send a few more bullets in that direction, just in case.

OT: I had the inverse problem in Insugency (Source based). Once dead, their ragdolls had very little mass, so as a support gunner, you shot at enemies until they started being moved by the gunfire.

 

[CapitalistDog]

There is a tactical aspect of this as well. If a stiff turns stiff immediately , you know he is gone and don't shoot him any more. Otherwise you will have to send a few more bullets in that direction, just in case.

OT: I had the inverse problem in Insugency (Source based). Once dead, their ragdolls had very little mass, so as a support gunner, you shot at enemies until they started being moved by the gunfire.

Very good point.

 

[CapitalistDog]

one last bump for consideration.

 

[Flacracker]

I dont like it when I see ragdolls standing up pretty much against walls. Also shooting dead bodies can be done on UE3 games like Gears of War. But I think that they should react to being shot.

 

[Jodl]

Hmm. That seems a bit weird.

I remember Alan Wilson (I think?) saying in an interview that you could use bodies as bullet shields. Though I'm not 100 percent sure whether I was dreaming or not.

 

[aaronlee]

Definitely agree, let's hope they will add this feature soon after the release assume there's no chance of it being in the final.

 

[CapitalistDog]

Definitely agree, let's hope they will add this feature soon after the release assume there's no chance of it being in the final.

I agree... therefore I bump for awareness.

 

[luciferintears]

Bodies dont respond at all even when their alive.

when shooting a moving target it's hard to tell if you shot him or if the bullet missed.

He will just keep running and show no reaction

 

[Volucris]

Bodies dont respond at all even when their alive.

when shooting a moving target it's hard to tell if you shot him or if the bullet missed.

He will just keep running and show no reaction

This.


Once they do react, it's a rather violent reaction. Death throws, convulsing fetal position movements, etc. The pain causes people to bundle up in a sort.

I don't suggest people go out and look for videos of people being shot, but I've unfortunately seen it several times. Even though they're effectively dead, repeated firing often induces more movements from the muscle tissue not being dead yet. If I kill a deer, quickly skin it and take out a section of muscle it will still quiver to the tip of a blade.


Once dead and not in death throws the body is soft cover. They will reduce the energy of a projectile if used as cover and will stop fragmentation. RO2 desperately needs server-side ragdoll effects. How long they are in effect for respawn games is up to TI. Also, when a bundle of guys burst into a room and meet a hail of gunfire killing them instantly, the guys behind them shouldn't be able to walk through the bodies unimpeded. It should somewhat slow your advancement as you're stepping on uneven, soft ground made of bodies.

 

[Reise]

Server-side ragdolls is basically out of the question if you want to keep playing with any smoothness as far as latency is concerned.

 

[Icey_Pain]

I think the solution to this problem would honestly cause way too many performance issues to justify the feature. They've already spent some good time on perfecting the animations when you are in a near death state.