9mm isn't a SWAT perk weapon?

[Lorkenpeist]

It grants XP for kills/assists, but not bonus XP for clots. Also, Tactical Movement doesn't work with them. Knife, on the other hand, works just fine for both bonus XP and Tactical Movement. Bug, or intentional?

 

[CJwarrior]

The 9mm is an all perk weapon, which is why it gives universal xp which ever perk you use. The knife on the other hand is perk specific. If lets say you switch to firebug as a swat, the knife will still give xp for swat rather than firebug.

 

[Aleflippy]

I do find it a bit stupid to be fair... If it's universal, it should give the proper XP for the perk using it.

But thanks for clarifying, I wasn't so sure myself.

 

[CJwarrior]

If it's universal, it should give the proper XP for the perk using it.

Well, my wording isnt exactly great. What I meant is that whatever perk you are using the 9mm with, you get xp for that perk which is active. So lets say SS, you get a kill with 9mm, SS exp.

 

[simplecat]

Game checks whether weapon or damage type is on perk, when it comes to damage bonuses or XP.

9mm is off perk in this terms. Neither commando (for example) gets XP for killing stalkers with buttstock of his ARs.

Knife and grenades are truly on-perk.

 

[Lorkenpeist]

Thanks for the explanation, I hadn't noticed that it was a thing for all perks. And it makes sense that knife would get the bonus because it's technically a different weapon for each perk even though they all have the same stats. I just wish the check for perk skills and bonus XP would include 9mm and dualies.

 

[CJwarrior]

Thanks for the explanation, I hadn't noticed that it was a thing for all perks. And it makes sense that knife would get the bonus because it's technically a different weapon for each perk even though they all have the same stats. I just wish the check for perk skills and bonus XP would include 9mm and dualies.

If I recall, Gunslinger is the only perk I know which gets benefits with 9mm usage because he is a pistol perk.

 

[Fiend Dragon]

The Commando really should have the 9mm as a perk weapon though. Just for quality of life, if nothing else. We are encouraged to use Dual 9mm with the 10 perk, but are punished for using them by loss of exp, and loss of movement from the 5 perk.

It's also really jarring for the 5 perk to switch to the med syringe to heal. I understand the purpose of restricting the movement to perk weapons, but the utility weapons like this should still function just for comfort and quality of life for players.