better then making a new thread.
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ppsh40 vs ppsh41 vs ppsh43
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I prefer the '43 out of all of them.
Sure, lower mag capacity, but the control and RoF is just right for me.
Sure, lower mag capacity, but the control and RoF is just right for me.
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I like the 41 the best out of the 3. It takes a little bit of practice with controlling recoil but once you get it mastered it is an awesome weapon of German destruction.
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Yeah I'm a firm believer in economizing threads. If the subject matter is exactly what you want to discuss then find an old thread discussing just that and add to it. You get to have all the older discussion there to build upon so others can see that people have discussed it already and add their comments/opinions to the weath of previous discussion rather than starting a new thread and starting from square one all over again.better then making a new thread.
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I'd go for the 43, don't like the older model and the 41 just kicks far too high even in short bursts while in iron sights.
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I almost always play as some type of rifleman so I'm no expert with the SMGs. But ignorance never keeps me from having an opinion.
When I use an SMG I prefer the PPS43 because it hits what I aim at.
My next preference would be the PPSH41 because it hits most of what I aim at.
I haven't played with the SMGs enough to be any good at controlling recoil. I use short bursts and if I miss with my first I'm usually toast. I hit with my first burst from the PPS43 more than with the others. To me, that more than makes up for having fewer bullets in the mag.
When I use an SMG I prefer the PPS43 because it hits what I aim at.
My next preference would be the PPSH41 because it hits most of what I aim at.
I haven't played with the SMGs enough to be any good at controlling recoil. I use short bursts and if I miss with my first I'm usually toast. I hit with my first burst from the PPS43 more than with the others. To me, that more than makes up for having fewer bullets in the mag.
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I tend to grab the 41' or the 43'. As was previously posted...I find that the 40 pulls to the side a bit.
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The have pros and cons each. You have to decide what suits you best in the situation.
The PPD-40 has a lower cyclic rate so it's a bit more controllable than the PPSh-41, and it's got the same ammo capacity, but only 3 magazines. I don't think it has the same range, though. It may be a bit lighter weight, too, so it won't hit as hard in melee, moves around easier in free-aim, and may be faster to shoulder.
The PPSh-41 has a REALLY fast cyclic rate, but you can learn to control it with very short bursts. It also has a large ammo capacity, but also only 3 magazines. It's a little slower to shoulder and SLIGHTLY slower in free-aim than the other Russian SMGs.
The PPS-43 has a cyclic rate midway between the PPD and the PPSh, I think. It's lighter, so it shoulders quickly, and VERY controllable. But, you've got to change out magazines more often. Still, if you conserve your fire, the PPS-43 is an awesome gun.
My advice is to get good enough with the PPSh-41 that you can be flexible. It's the hardest of the three to use, but the most versatile once you get the hang of it. Need to clear a room? Go full auto and go hog-wild. Need to pick someone off? Fire a quick burst while kneeling. Need to bash someone in the head? Don't worry, you've got plenty of wood to do it with. Plus, the PPSh is on virtually every map, whereas the PPD and PPS aren't. The PPSh is also often given to other classes like tank commanders and combat engineers, and often, even on a map where one class can select the PPD or PPS, those classes can't. Even the assault class can't always select the SMG of its choice.
So, get good with the PPSh and then when you have the choice, you can pick the right tool for the job.
The PPD-40 has a lower cyclic rate so it's a bit more controllable than the PPSh-41, and it's got the same ammo capacity, but only 3 magazines. I don't think it has the same range, though. It may be a bit lighter weight, too, so it won't hit as hard in melee, moves around easier in free-aim, and may be faster to shoulder.
The PPSh-41 has a REALLY fast cyclic rate, but you can learn to control it with very short bursts. It also has a large ammo capacity, but also only 3 magazines. It's a little slower to shoulder and SLIGHTLY slower in free-aim than the other Russian SMGs.
The PPS-43 has a cyclic rate midway between the PPD and the PPSh, I think. It's lighter, so it shoulders quickly, and VERY controllable. But, you've got to change out magazines more often. Still, if you conserve your fire, the PPS-43 is an awesome gun.
My advice is to get good enough with the PPSh-41 that you can be flexible. It's the hardest of the three to use, but the most versatile once you get the hang of it. Need to clear a room? Go full auto and go hog-wild. Need to pick someone off? Fire a quick burst while kneeling. Need to bash someone in the head? Don't worry, you've got plenty of wood to do it with. Plus, the PPSh is on virtually every map, whereas the PPD and PPS aren't. The PPSh is also often given to other classes like tank commanders and combat engineers, and often, even on a map where one class can select the PPD or PPS, those classes can't. Even the assault class can't always select the SMG of its choice.
So, get good with the PPSh and then when you have the choice, you can pick the right tool for the job.
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Well, i've always been a PPSh-41 fan and it translated rather well into RO. Its got its problems, but over time i got pretty good at keeping down that recoil and its great gun, beats the PPD and PPS hands down, esp for clearing rooms, '41 all the way.
, '41 all the way.
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I'd take an StG44 over anything in game, but, given a choice between the Russian SMGs, I'd generally choose the ППШ41.
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i love a good ppsh41 on a server with enough lag so that i get no kick whatsoever .. that means i can go chaining people up at 50 - 60 feet easily .. its like your walking round with a recoiless miningun..
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have u ever read the weapon guide hosted on this site??
if so ull understand that there is no point going for ppsh43 rather then ppsh41, cause the 2nd is the best russian assault weapon......in the main page there a link to all the weapon stats and tactical guide...
if so ull understand that there is no point going for ppsh43 rather then ppsh41, cause the 2nd is the best russian assault weapon......in the main page there a link to all the weapon stats and tactical guide...
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So you can run out of ammo faster? I think 71 rounds is not enough, they should have put 100.
PPD is gay because it looks stupid, sounds stupid and a slower rate ROF.
PPS looks like a POS and only has 35 rounds.
PPSH ftw everytime.
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