Scoring system

[Spoon]

Im sure people brought this up and i know i brought this up back in mod days.
I honestly cant stand the scoring system, its so unfair. Amazing players sometimes get viewd as the worst becuase players run around just capping stuff and get a easy 10 points!!! 10!!
I think you guys view it as teamwork but i think its so wrong. How is this fair for a MG or sniper? The capping system should be on its own from how many kills.
Sometimes i get very angry when you request a change class but poeple look at your score mean while its all killing points and in truth i have higher score and deserve the sniper class.
Something has to be changed becuase its just stupid. Or just dont show scores at all

 

[Droog]

Or just dont show scores at all

Or just dont look at the scores at all.

 

[Deathsai]

No scoreboards til the end of the round. That fixes everything.

Kill deathmessages, too.

 

[Velcro Warrior]

I don't understand why so many people are obsessed over their score... I play the game to whoop some ass, and I don't need a numerical value to tell me how good I'm doing...

The majoritiy of people seem to like death messages and scores however, so they'll probably stay in. I just have to bookmark servers that remove them as I find them.

i have higher score and deserve the sniper class

Do the number of kills you have really reflect how good you are? Arguably, yes. I argue no. So I got 30 kills from artillery last round; does that mean I'm the best person to be sniper?


I'm just going to drop the subject, because it's not worth it to me.

 

[[tR]Mad Mac]

As long as the player's score is postive, they are good in my book.

I've had rounds where people have accused me of cheating, and then followed those up with rounds where I didnt break single digits. Score isnt important, just try to help your team and any sensible player wont think wrong of you.

 

[Monkwarrior]

Scores are irrelevant.
Mapwins and teameffort are the true merits of this game (ok an occasional bajo stab too ).

Monk.

 

[[-project.rattus-]]

I would lie if I proclaimed that it doesn't give me satisfaction if I am at the top of the scoreboard.
Still, I think it is okay as it is.

 

[HotDang]

I don't like points for capping at all. I'm not the most objective obsessed player in fairness. I play this game to pit my wits against an opponent, and ideally kill them before they kill me. I play for kills and I know how many people I've killed and I get satisfaction from that. What other people think of my score is their problem, not mine.

 

[Corporal Clegg]

how about no individual scoring points and all the points are combined into AXIS : points ALLIES : points. So you would be working for your team's points honestly I dont think anyone cares about someone else's scores. Many people are point freaks in this game, they use your score to judge you and so on, it really gets annoying sometimes.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

While score really isn't important, it's there and getting points for capping objectives serves to promote playing the game as it was meant and not just some giant TeamDeathmatch game. Same goes for supplying the MG'er with ammo. I think the current scoring is meant to promote better gameplay and it offers a slight incentive to those who may otherwise just wish to just get kills and skip capping/defending objectives.

 

[.:iGi:.U.G.H.]

While score really isn't important, it's there and getting points for capping objectives serves to promote playing the game as it was meant and not just some giant TeamDeathmatch game. Same goes for supplying the MG'er with ammo. I think the current scoring is meant to promote better gameplay and it offers a slight incentive to those who may otherwise just wish to just get kills and skip capping/defending objectives.

Agreed.

It's hard enough sometimes to get people to carry out objectives so a big reward for doing so is perfect.

 

[Rameusb5]

While score really isn't important, it's there and getting points for capping objectives serves to promote playing the game as it was meant and not just some giant TeamDeathmatch game. Same goes for supplying the MG'er with ammo. I think the current scoring is meant to promote better gameplay and it offers a slight incentive to those who may otherwise just wish to just get kills and skip capping/defending objectives.

QFT


The only thing I would change about scoring is that I would subract a point for dying and 3 points for teamkilling.

 

[Spoon]

But its the whole point of argument. Peoplel acuse poeple of sucking mean while they dont really suck its just that they are not going point hungry and resupplying mgers and captureing arears like crazy. You cant prove your self if someone says you suck.
I agree then take score board off. Of who cares what other peoples score is and make score board show only your score.


GREAT IDEA: Score board only shows your score! Names dont move up on list implying they have better score anymore but who was in game first. I think people that have been playing longer deserve the right more then points!

 

[Blaz]

Hi all,

First time posting here so try not to bash too hard...

I like the current score system, to me, the most important thing is to WIN!! Being on top of the scoreboard in a loss is not satisfying at all. I'd rather have a low score in a WIN. Anything that will encourage players to attack and defend objectives and WIN is welcomed. What I'd like to see is an additional point given for killing a player in a cap zone. This would only apply to objectives that can be retaken.

Remember, this is a game, the goal is to have fun and man! I'm I having fun with this game.

Cheers.

 

[lATENT_c]

While score really isn't important, it's there and getting points for capping objectives serves to promote playing the game as it was meant and not just some giant TeamDeathmatch game. Same goes for supplying the MG'er with ammo. I think the current scoring is meant to promote better gameplay and it offers a slight incentive to those who may otherwise just wish to just get kills and skip capping/defending objectives.

The problem with this is that most of the people who are knowledgeabe and skilled enough to get these points are the same people who are beyond caring about them. Points don't mean anything. They give you no tangible advantage in any way, and most players realize the scoring system is out of whack, so points don't even really serve to impress anyone, either.

People who care about resupplying, capping, etc., are not motivated by the points they score, but by their team's success.

Conversely, kill whores who really just want a deathmatch style game are unimpressed and unmotivated by getting a high score on a scoreboard that few people notice, care about, or even understand.

 

[Teq]

See if you like the ideas below:

The basic rules:
* You should ONLY get reward if you HELP YOUR TEAM TO WIN the battle ACCORDING to your class!
-With the comming score system, a soldier WILL KNOW WHEN HE HAS NOT AIDED HIS TEAM.

To elaborate this: (example values)

* If you are a sniper you should ONLY get points for:
a) covering teammates (shoot enemy within IE 20m? of your mate) 2p
b) Taking out MG's-----------------------------------------------5p
c) Taking out officers--------------------------------------------7p
d) shooting tankcommanders/drivers out the hatch.----------------3p
e) Defending a flag (shooting enemy in cap zone)------------------3p
f) Killing an enemy soldier-----------------------------------------1p

* If you are infantry you should only get rewards if:
a) You cap a flag------------------------------------------------10p
b) You defend a flag---------------------------------------------5p
c) You cover a teammate-----------------------------------------3p
d) Kill an enemy soldier-------------------------------------------2p

* The MG class should only have rewards for:
a) Suppressing enemy (shooting within 1m of enemy for 5 secs)-------1p
b) Cover a teammate (kill enemy within 20m of friendly)---------------2p
c) Defending a flag (killing enemy in cap zone)------------------------3p
d) Killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------------------1p

* The Antitank personell should only get rewards for:
a) Destroying heavy tanks--------------------------------7p
b) Destroying light tanks----------------------------------5p
c) Destryoing light vehicles-------------------------------2p
d) Defending/assisting a capzone armour------------------7p
e) Covering a friendly------------------------------------2p
f) killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------0p

* Armour crew only gets rewards for:
a) Destroy heavy tanks-----------------------------------6p
b) Destroy light tanks-------------------------------------4p
c) Destroy cars-------------------------------------------2p
d) Covering friendly tanks (kill enemy tank withwin 100m)---2p
e) Covering infantry (kill enemy within 20m)----------------1p
f) Defending a flag----------------------------------------10p
g) Suppressive fire (HE or burst 1m from enemy pos pr 5 sec-1p
h) Destroying MG nests and support posisions---------------2p

* The Commander should only be rewarded if:
a) The team total team score--------------------------- Xp
b) For all actions equal to the infantry class------------- See inf.
c) For successfull arty/mortar calls----------------------1p pr kill
d) Successfull suppressing of enemy with arty-----------1p

After game end, each soldier might get a total ranking IE:

Inidividual summary:
1-20p----- Conscript
21-40p-----Recruit
41-80p-----Regular
81-120p------Veteran
121-180p------Crack
181-300p------Elite

Team/commander score:
= average score: Sum up all individual scores and divide by squad players

 

[Dax02]

wtF, don't give scores to anybody, **** the scores or go and play BF2

omg! i need scores to show ma 1337 skillZ! come on guys

See if you like the ideas below:

The basic rules:
* You should ONLY get reward if you HELP YOUR TEAM TO WIN the battle ACCORDING to your class!
- IE the Class gets MAX score for performing his assigned task.
- The punishment is no reward and Teamloss.
-With the comming score system, a soldier WILL KNOW WHEN HE HAS NOT AIDED HIS TEAM.

To elaborate this: (example values)


* If you are a sniper you should get points for:
a) covering teammates (shoot enemy within IE 20m? of your mate) 3p
b) Taking out MG's-----------------------------------------------5p
c) Taking out officers--------------------------------------------10p
d) shooting tankcommanders/drivers out the hatch.----------------7p
e) Defending a flag (shooting enemy in cap zone)------------------5p
f) Killing an enemy soldier-----------------------------------------1p

* If you are infantry you should get rewards if:
a) You cap a flag------------------------------------------------10p
b) You defend a flag---------------------------------------------10p
c) You cover a teammate-----------------------------------------3p
d) Kill an enemy soldier-------------------------------------------2p

* The MG class should have rewards for:
a) Suppressing enemy (shooting within 5m of enemy,IE behind cover)--1p
b) Cover a teammate (kill enemy within 20m of friendly)---------------7p
c) Defending a flag (killing enemy in cap zone)------------------------10p
d) Killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------------------2p

* The Antitank personell should get rewards for:
a) Destroying heavy tanks--------------------------------10p
b) Destroying light tanks----------------------------------7p
c) Destryoing light vehicles-------------------------------5p
d) Defending/assisting a capzone armour------------------10p
e) Covering a friendly------------------------------------5p
f) killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------1p

* Armour crew gets rewards for:
a) Destroy heavy tanks-----------------------------------8p
b) Destroy light tanks-------------------------------------6p
c) Destroy cars-------------------------------------------4p
d) Covering friendly tanks (kill enemy tank withwin 100m)---5p
e) Covering infantry---------------------------------------3p
f) Defending a flag----------------------------------------10p
g) Suppressing enemy-------------------------------------2p
h) Destroying MG nests and support posisions---------------5p

* The Commander should be rewarded if:
a) If the team total team score------------------------- Xp
b) For all actions equal to the infantry class------------- See inf.
c) For successfull arty/mortar calls----------------------1p pr kill
d) Successfull suppressing of enemy with arty-----------1p

Do you really need points to know what you have to do as a Sniper? LMAO

 

[Oi!Oi!Oi!]

See if you like the ideas below:

The basic rules:
* You should ONLY get reward if you HELP YOUR TEAM TO WIN the battle ACCORDING to your class!
-With the comming score system, a soldier WILL KNOW WHEN HE HAS NOT AIDED HIS TEAM.

To elaborate this: (example values)


* If you are a sniper you should get points for:
a) covering teammates (shoot enemy within IE 20m? of your mate) 3p
b) Taking out MG's-----------------------------------------------5p
c) Taking out officers--------------------------------------------10p
d) shooting tankcommanders/drivers out the hatch.----------------7p
e) Defending a flag (shooting enemy in cap zone)------------------5p
f) Killing an enemy soldier-----------------------------------------1p

* If you are infantry you should get rewards if:
a) You cap a flag------------------------------------------------10p
b) You defend a flag---------------------------------------------10p
c) You cover a teammate-----------------------------------------3p
d) Kill an enemy soldier-------------------------------------------2p

* The MG class should have rewards for:
a) Suppressing enemy (shooting within 5m of enemy,IE behind cover)--1p
b) Cover a teammate (kill enemy within 20m of friendly)---------------7p
c) Defending a flag (killing enemy in cap zone)------------------------10p
d) Killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------------------2p

* The Antitank personell should get rewards for:
a) Destroying heavy tanks--------------------------------10p
b) Destroying light tanks----------------------------------7p
c) Destryoing light vehicles-------------------------------5p
d) Defending/assisting a capzone armour------------------10p
e) Covering a friendly------------------------------------5p
f) killing enemy soldier-----------------------------------1p

* Armour crew gets rewards for:
a) Destroy heavy tanks-----------------------------------8p
b) Destroy light tanks-------------------------------------6p
c) Destroy cars-------------------------------------------4p
d) Covering friendly tanks (kill enemy tank withwin 100m)---5p
e) Covering infantry---------------------------------------3p
f) Defending a flag----------------------------------------10p
g) Suppressing enemy-------------------------------------2p
h) Destroying MG nests and support posisions---------------5p

* The Commander should be rewarded if:
a) If the team total team score------------------------- Xp
b) For all actions equal to the infantry class------------- See inf.
c) For successfull arty/mortar calls----------------------1p pr kill
d) Successfull suppressing of enemy with arty-----------1p

After game end, each soldier might get a total ranking IE:

1-20p----- Conscript
21-40p-----Recruit
41-80p-----Regular
81-120p------Veteran
121-180p------Crack
181-300p------Elite

This is pretty much how I think points should work. With each player getting rated depending on the class they choose. Though I would give fewer points for many things you listed. You also forgot the MG ammo supply points.

What would define "defending a flag"? Killing the people capping the area a few second before the meter is full? Considering how some areas are always contested on certain maps, the capture/defense points could quickly go over the top.

 

[Teq]

wtF, don't give scores to anybody, **** the scores or go and play BF
omg! i need scores to show ma 1337 skillZ! come on guys

Approx 90%+ of noobs are pointhunters (cause they havent learned to appreciate teamwork yet)
We need noobs to fill public servers.
We need noobs that later on becomes veterans that can fill our clans and pub servers.

Point is:
Very few ppl Enjoys the feel of teamwork.
ALOT of ppl enjoy hunting scores....
If ALOT of ppl hunt scores by doing teamwork, we have a nice public game!

Do you really need points to know what you have to do as a Sniper? LMAO

I suggest you learn to talk with abit more respect to others opinions.
I dont know your age, but regardles, If you had an idea I would atleast try to get ur idea before judging.

 

[Murphy]

* The MG class should have rewards for:
a) Suppressing enemy (shooting within 5m of enemy,IE behind cover)--1p

With 1200 rounds per minute I see the scoreboard exploding.
That aside, nice list, you really thought about it. A better scoresystem is needed, because now its too complex to be understood by newcomers (5p for resupplying an mg-gunner and 1p for killing someone, who wanted to kill the mg-gunner?? Kent Horvind would say: "Ok? That