CaptRanger said:
Jack, due to people being impatient, out-spoken, and having narrow-sightedness like yourself, many game companies never keep the community updated about anything. Like the dev's have said here before, giving dates and not being able to keep them seems to upset people more than not being given any news at all.
I personally like to be informed of what's going on, no matter if it's a tenuous plan that might change or not. I wish people like yourself could handle the fact that problems come up and dates will be pushed back.
The dev's could think the patch is almost complete and plan to release it in the coming days, but then a few players have an issue. The dev's have to then go back through things, pin-point what the problem is, and find a fix for it. Hopefully this fix doesn't create another issue. This process will clearly take time and scheduals will change even when it seems things are almost complete!
The dev's know about the potential of steam and they also have a far greater idea of the overall time-frame things must be added. Grow up and realize that everything won't be done on your schedual.
Frankly, Jack, you sound like a spoiled child that didn't get exactly what he wanted on his birthday.
Nothing wrong with dates getting pushed back. What is irritating is having them pushed back and not telling anyone until they incessantly keep asking about it. As you said yourself, " I personally like to be informed of what's going on, no matter if it's a tenuous plan that might change or not."
I think I laid out fairly well the chronology of this whole thing in the last post. We are told one thing, then silence ensues for weeks while nothing happens....we only find out further info by making topic upon topic asking what is going on. The news page wasn't even used until popular demand forced it.
And who said anything about stuff being done on my schedule? The only ones who have laid out a schedule have been the devs. All of the expected dates we have had are due to what they have iterated, not me or anyone else.
And I am sure the devs have a knowledge of Steam and the timeframe needed....which makes we wonder all the more what is with the spastic news announcents that say things are almost done one day, then a dev pops in a week later in an obscure thread that the general audience won't even read and says it will be a month more at a conservative estimate.
I mean maybe it's just me.
Tripwire is very excited to announce that we’re nearing completion of our first major update/patch for Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. The focus of this update will be addressing some known issues, bug fixes, major optimizations and two new weapons: the German MP41 sub-machine gun and the Soviet Mosin M44 rifle.
This will be the first of an ever-increasing flow of new patches containing weapons, maps, vehicles and last, but not least, lots of new game-play features! This is planned to be a steady stream off into 2007 (it will be 2007 before the second patch gets out at this rate, assuming it takes 3-4 months to fix issues as is) and best of all is this will all be coming to you for free! (yeah so many companies charge for patches these days it sickening)
Expect more details on this over the next few days what details? That they are working on a patch and can't tell us what's in it? How informative).Don't forget that we like to hear your feedback and ideas on the game: keep them coming on the forums.
Like I said nothing in frontpage, nothing in browser...only cryptic responses from devs after prolonged nagging. And yeah I know, "they could just decide to not tell you anything." Well then, lets just forget the whole thing right!?
And yeah, I guess I do sound like a "spoiled kid." Well excuse me. All I had to listen to were people saying how the game was held off until release as long as possible to ensure there were no major bugs "like in other shooters," and we get a broken game anyway.
Not only a game with major portions of it broken, but no acknowlegement of this for weeks. The same butt-lickers coming around saying how "there is nothing wrong with blah blah...you don't know what you are talking about....if you don't like it leave." Then what do you know? Hey, there were major bugs afterall.
Then weeks with nothing. Worst of all, all a large portion of this community did was talk **** about other other developers, heralding TW as somehow divinely mandated. But we are getting the same lame excuses and delays any other develper would give. And just as with so many shooters, it will be 6 months before the game is playing remotely like it was meant to on launch day.
At least with EA (which you guys seem to loath by and large) they give excuses that make sense. I mean look at the logic going on here, based off what guys like Wilson and others have wrote.
"Why is the patch 2 months late?"
TW: "Because we are having difficulties implementing everything we wanted to."
"Well can you tell us what's going on?"
TW: "Well we aren't sure what stuff will make it and what won't."
"So, how do you know if you will be able to fit in all the stuff you want to for the patch?"
TW: "It depends on if we can fit this content in with our schedule."
"Uh..and yet the schedule is determined by what content you are adding?"
TW: "Seems so."
"But the schedule also is determing what content you can get out in time?"
TW: "Yes...."
"Ok....what about just incrementally releasing stuff
as you accomplish it over time, as oppossed to waiting for some big patch? Afterall, that's what the boon of Steam was right?
TW: "............."
Pardon me while I puke a huge load on my desk.
Tell you guys what, since I am so spoiled, I think I will just leave the forums for two months, but not before I make a deal. Here it is: I'll check back in two months, and if the patch is still not out and/or there are major breaks with the game from a new patch that was released, then I'll just quietly sigh. If in two months the patch is out and the game finally works in the form as advertised, and what I paid for, then I will lash myself 300 times. So I am serious, no posting for two months, I got more important stuff to do over the summer anyway.
Oh yeah, and sorry I forgot to add my URL like the rest of the gang, here it is, again sorry for being so absent minded:
www.whatthe[explitivedeleted]isaurlsuppossedtoachievethatdoesn'tleadtoanything.com