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  • Official - Running A High Player Count Server Info

    The purpose of this post is to provide server admins with information on running a high player count server. I would first like to preface this by saying every server admin should start by reading Butch Cassidy's post here:

    http://www.redorchestragame.com/foru...ad.php?t=18293

    His server was the one we did most of the testing on, and his post contains a lot of useful information.

    **Very Important Info!!!***
    If you only read one part of this post, read this:
    Be conservative when setting up the max players on your server!!!
    Start at a max player count lower than you think your server will handle and then test it with a full amount of players. If the CPU doesn't peak out, bump the max players up a couple at a time until the CPU starts to peak, and then back it down a couple of slots. If your CPU peaks out regularly during play, your players will experience lag, and make a rapid exit from the server (which will only result in YOU having an empty server, and a bad rep for you having a laggy server).

    Recommended Server Specs - 50 Players All Maps

    These are our recommended server specs for a server that can run 50 players solidly on all official Tripwire Steam distributed maps (both TWI and Official Custom). We have done extensive testing on this equipment.

    CPU - Xeon 5160 Woodcrest, (Dual-Core) 3.0GHz/1333MHz FSB 4MB cache (Or equivalent)
    2GB ECC Fully Buffered DIMM memory/FB 667Mhz FBD
    Broadcom Nextreme II Net Cards (or Equivalant) with TOE enabled.

    Currently I only know of one server provider offering a server this fast ( www.artofwarcentral.com ) and it was a special order from them (and not cheap), but I'm sure there should be others if you do some checking around.

    Recommended Player Amount for different map types/server types

    Different types of maps perform differently on the server's CPU, so depending on what types of maps you are going to be running you should set your Maxplayer count higher or lower. Here are some general guidelines:

    Tank Maps - Highest CPU Usage. This is due to vehicle physics calculations being heavy, and vehicle maps tend to be larger with more player's in view at one time (which also increases CPU usage).

    Combined Arms Maps - Medium CPU Usage. These have less vehicles, so aren't as heavy as full-on tank maps.

    Infantry Only Maps - Light CPU Usage. These maps have no vehicles, and tend to be smaller with less players in view at a time.

    Server's we've tested and what they can handle:

    CPU - Xeon 5160 Woodcrest, (Dual-Core) 3.0GHz/1333MHz FSB 4MB cache
    All Maps - 50 Players
    Tank Maps - 50 Players
    Combined Arms Maps - 56 Players
    Infantry Only Maps - 60 Players (not fully tested, results may vary)

    CPU - Xeon 5130 Woodcrest, (Dual-Core) 2.0GHz/1333MHz FSB
    All Maps - 40 Players (not fully tested, results may vary)
    Tank Maps - 40 Players (not fully tested, results may vary)
    Combined Arms Maps - 44 Players (not fully tested, results may vary)
    Infantry Only Maps - 46 Players (not fully tested, results may vary)

    CPU - Quad Core Xeon 5110 1.6 GHZ/1066MHZ FSB 4MB Cache
    All Maps - 32 Players
    Tank Maps - 32 Players
    Combined Arms Maps - 38 Players
    Infantry Only Maps - 42 Players

    CPU - Older Xeon Dual Core 3.06 GHZ (Stock Gameservers.com 32 player RO server)
    All Maps - 32 Players
    Tank Maps - 32 Players
    Combined Arms Maps - 36 Players
    Infantry Only Maps - 40 Players

    This should give you a pretty good idea of what type of server you'll need to run higher player counts. One thing to keep in mind - the server app is NOT multithreaded. So it doesn't really gain anything from multi core, other than having the extraneous OS operations and other programs offloaded to another core. There were some minor improvements made with this update to server CPU usage, but if your server could only handle 32 players before, it can only handle 32 players now.

    On a final note, we noticed Danzig to be the lowest CPU usage of all maps. If you happen to be running a 24/7 Danzig server (as I know some admins do), you can likely go higher than the above mentioned list (maybe even up to 64 players on the 5160 Woodcrest).

    Bandwidth Usage

    High player count RO servers use a LOT of bandwidth. A full 50 player RO will use at least 3Mb/s and one that if full 24/7 could hit 2000GB per month.

    Custom Maps/Mutators

    In our testing we found that many of the custom maps were not as optimized as the official TWI maps (not including the new custom maps distributed over Steam, as these went through an optimization pass). So if you are going to be running lots of custom maps, you will likely need to run lower player slots than the above mentioned recommended specs.

    Many of the mutators also increase server side CPU usage (some of them to a great degree), so as with the maps, if you are running lots of mutators, you may need to lower your MaxPlayer slots.

    Setting Up The Server to allow for High Player counts

    So if you've read all of the above and you STILL want to do a high player count server I will explain the settings here. I would give one more final caution - PLEASE don't overload your server. The last thing the community needs is a bunch of CPU overloaded 64 player servers lagging like crazy. Be conservative with your settings, and if you find your server CPU peaking (pings climbing when the server is full), lower your max slots until it stops peaking. Ok, so here is how it is done:

    1. Add this setting to the commandline of your server:
    [FONT="Courier New"]Ignore32PlayerLimit=true[/FONT]

    Your commandline should look something like this:

    [FONT="Courier New"]
    Code:
    ucc server RO-SmolenskStalemate.rom?deathmessagemode=3?FriendlyFireScale=1?FFPunishment=1?PreStartTime=30?FFKillLimit=5?FFDamageLimit=800?VACSecured=true?game=ROEngine.ROTeamGame?MinPlayers=0?Ignore32PlayerLimit=true -log=Server1Log.log
    [/FONT]

    Alternately you can set that value in your RedOrchestra.ini file. This setting will allow your server to go beyond 32 players.

    3. Set you MaxPlayers setting to the desired value (up to a theoretical limit of 64, although 50 is the practical limit if you are running all map types).

    That should be it. Keep a close eye on your CPU usage and bandwidth as mentioned above and you should have a server full of happy players

    Cheers,


    John Gibson
    President
    Tripwire Interactive LLC
    [I support "RO Forums Classic" mode!!!]

  • #2
    erm what about bots? can we add more than 32? if so how?
    dont ask why i would want to lol

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    • #3
      Where in the ini i have to add this line ?
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      • #4
        Alternately you can set that value in your RedOrchestra.ini file. This setting will allow your server to go beyond 32 players.
        Although the command line setting is working fine, just out of curiosity, where would you put that (Ignore32PlayerLimit=true) in the ini file? Would it go in the [Engine.GameEngine] section, the [Engine.GameInfo] section or somewhere else?

        Edit: You must of beat me by seconds mueck
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        • #5
          Faster faster !!

          I think i found out the problem. Add this line to [Engine.GameInfo]:

          bIgnore32PlayerLimit=True

          [SIZE=2]It
          Last edited by Plattfuss; 06-01-2007, 07:03 AM.
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          • #6
            Sweet, thx mueck
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            • #7
              Always a pleasure !!!
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              • #8
                The link to read above is missing... which I assumed would answer my question.

                Adding Mutators to your server.. does this have a high impact on the 50 player servers?

                Such as ServerAds etc..

                I also noticed..watching the scoreboard while ingame..
                at first 40ping...32 players 60-70ping 40-45Players 80-100ping
                50 players 90-110 ping.. so apparently this does effect the system.

                Although less is best..Im thinking to 120ping or higher this should be fine running this game?
                RO2 Server: [URL="http://games-survival.com/pc-games/front-person-shooters/"]Canceled due to lack of players[/URL]

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                • #9
                  Old post, I know, just thought I would put it out there. Have a 60 slot server up and running, and would love to see how it performs under a load. :-)

                  Dedicated Server specs:

                  Dual Intel Xeon L5410 2.33Ghz (Dual CPU, Quad Core)
                  8GB RAM -250GB SATAII
                  1000Mbps Network Port Speed - Tier 1 Bandwidth
                  Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition 64bit
                  Location: Dallas, TX USA

                  I have the server bound to all 8 cores. Server IP is 207.210.254.58 if you wish to check it out.
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