Who are the Heroes?

[panzerknacker]

Except that numerous Russians were given the Hero of Russia award during the battle, the city of Stalingrad being given the nickname Hero City and that this was built in stalingrad to commemorate the victory...

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but yeah, heroes is totally inappropriate..............Veterans of Stalingrad would have sounded better and have been more philosophical and historically accurate.....

Can we be her as a Russki?

Charging and the other team takes a crap.

Holy hell she has a freaking sword!

 

[Fedorov]

When you become hero, can you play as the sword wielding huge statue from the future? Germans will **** their pants =)

 

[timur]

When you become hero, can you play as the sword wielding huge statue from the future? Germans will **** their pants =)

Yes, a giant statue woman from the future with a massive sword.....riding an :IS2:. Just imagine it...

 

[Waphlez]

I'm no soldier, but I've always heard that a soldier's motive for fighting and his motive for joining the military changes. He may have joined because of nationalism, but in combat he fights for his fellow soldiers, his brothers. So we shouldn't bring up the politics behind the war (war is politics after all) when deciding who are the heroes. We should look at the sacrifice and strength of the soldiers who fought.

 

[timur]

I'm no soldier, but I've always heard that a soldier's motive for fighting and his motive for joining the military changes. He may have joined because of nationalism, but in combat he fights for his fellow soldiers, his brothers. So we shouldn't bring up the politics behind the war (war is politics after all) when deciding who are the heroes. We should look at the sacrifice and strength of the soldiers who fought.

That is precisley the spirit in Roost, and what promises to be the spirit in Hos! I'm sure you will enjoy the series in that aspect, then.

 

[RedWarrior]

But Tripwire (I'd assume) is not going to be glorifying National Socialism either.

Swastikas should be in-game as much as Hammer and Sickles should be. Both are symbols of close/equally evil, murderous regimes. But the symbols were part of the period.

If they decide to not put them in, I'd hope they at least make it easy to mod it...

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Then Stars and stripes flag shouldnt be in the Rising Storm mod. Because the country has killed countless innocent civilians in wars. If we judge like you, then every countrys symbols are evil.

 

[Das Bose]

While I don't personally care if these 'symbols' are in or not, I do really worry about those among us who place so much importance on their inclusion

 

[heath4n]

Exactly, why should the US get to put it's symbol everywhere when they have committed war crimes as well? The soviets committed huge amounts of war crimes. China commits war crimes, UK commits war crimes. Germany have committed war crimes.

This is a realism game yet we don't have Swastica's, it takes a huge amount away from the atmosphere. Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it.

I still remember sitting in a house one day listening to the King Tiger rumble past in DH and loving the atmosphere it provided, one of the great things about RO is the authenticness of it.

If TW is going to an insane amount of trouble to detail the insides of a tank, I can't understand why they couldn't have two textures which would actually add a huge amount to the experience of the game.

 

[timur]

Exactly, why should the US get to put it's symbol everywhere when they have committed war crimes as well? The soviets committed huge amounts of war crimes. China commits war crimes, UK commits war crimes. Germany have committed war crimes.

This is a realism game yet we don't have Swastica's, it takes a huge amount away from the atmosphere. Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it.

I still remember sitting in a house one day listening to the King Tiger rumble past in DH and loving the atmosphere it provided, one of the great things about RO is the authenticness of it.

If TW is going to an insane amount of trouble to detail the insides of a tank, I can't understand why they couldn't have two textures which would actually add a huge amount to the experience of the game.

true, but if those 2 textures violate the laws of various contries, I think its better for TWI to simply leave out just 2 textures to allow RO to ship anywhere and everywhere.

Anyways, its not like swatstikas were everywhere; Germany used numerous versions of the Iron cross for many tank and aircraft emblems, and the swatstika proper was generally more common after the battle at photo-ops.

 

[heath4n]

I just can't understand why so much effort is being wasted on detailing the inside of tanks when they could put that effort into creating dual decals which would lend huge amounts to the atmosphere of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Germans, Soviets, UK and the US were disgusting, obviously the victor gets to control the history of events but this is a realism game and I want to feel like I'm in the game.

This is just another form of censorship, I don't understand the germans and why they do this. Restricting the symbols is only going to make people want them more and give them evidence of them doing the exact same thing as the nazi's, holding back free speech. For such an advanced country, I don't understand this rationale. When I want my children to eat something healthy, I tell them they can't have it and then they want it, adults are not much different.

 

[DiedTrying]

I just can't understand why so much effort is being wasted on detailing the inside of tanks when they could put that effort into creating dual decals which would lend huge amounts to the atmosphere of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Germans, Soviets, UK and the US were disgusting, obviously the victor gets to control the history of events but this is a realism game and I want to feel like I'm in the game.

This is just another form of censorship, I don't understand the germans and why they do this. Restricting the symbols is only going to make people want them more and give them evidence of them doing the exact same thing as the nazi's, holding back free speech. For such an advanced country, I don't understand this rationale. When I want my children to eat something healthy, I tell them they can't have it and then they want it, adults are not much different.

Legit question: How old are you?

 

[hockeywarrior]

Yes, a giant statue woman from the future with a massive sword.....riding an :IS2:. Just imagine it...

Like this?

 

[timur]

I just can't understand why so much effort is being wasted on detailing the inside of tanks when they could put that effort into creating dual decals which would lend huge amounts to the atmosphere of the game.

Don't get me wrong, I think the Germans, Soviets, UK and the US were disgusting, obviously the victor gets to control the history of events but this is a realism game and I want to feel like I'm in the game.

This is just another form of censorship, I don't understand the germans and why they do this. Restricting the symbols is only going to make people want them more and give them evidence of them doing the exact same thing as the nazi's, holding back free speech. For such an advanced country, I don't understand this rationale. When I want my children to eat something healthy, I tell them they can't have it and then they want it, adults are not much different.

Its not the question of making the decals or implementing them, its just the massive legal blockades! I mean, it wouldn't be just decals, it would be pretty much having to release mutliple versions and it would likely turn into a massive bundle of general unhappinness.

Maybe TWI will think about it when Germany and the rest repeal those laws, but until then they are simply respecting their laws (and their sales ) .

As for the validity/effects of those laws...thats a little beyond the scope of this thread.