Tactical delay

[K98-Schütze[GER]]

The tactical delay was possible in RO1.

Now, if you are not attacking the cap zones for a while, than you will be nailed down.
The timer in orange is starting and running down.
If no progress is made, the attackers will lose the match.

What is stupid, cause in reality you want sometimes just fight the enemy down and not starting stupidly attacking on some enemy stronghold, cause a magic clock is running.

What was possible in RO1, to fall back as attacker when your tickets are low, is now mostly leading to the match lose, cause of the magic orange time clock.

No way to turn a misled attack in your favour.

My proposal is that we should discuss this "feature" if its really necessary at all game-modes and servers.

 

[Großadmial Thrawn]

personaly i prefer it that way then to have to fight 30 minutes longer e.g. on bridges without any changes to the match outcome

 

[seienchin88]

[QUOTE=Gro

 

[titsmcgee852]

Unfortunately, not having the countdown timer only works when the server is good. I.e. people realise that one team is stacked and will go to the other side, which sadly doesn't happen on most pub servers, so the countdown timer is a necessary evil in most cases.

 

[PsychoPigeon]

are you talking about lock down?

 

[Jpz38 Hetzer]

I like lock down, if its been 10min and the attackers havent captured 1 objective, the match islost, Id rather not drag on a hopeless battle were you cant even spawn for 40min. (Looking at you bridges)

 

[K98-Schütze[GER]]

are you talking about lock down?

Yes, I mean lock down.

My experience is, that in many cases you still make progress on map even without capping (getting better positions for sphere of action -> cap's).
The lock down timer forces you to act immeatitly, what mostly brings nothing but more casualties for the attackers.

The possibility for a tactical delay (tactical fall back perspectivly for the other side) adds more for tactical gameplay, specially in relation with ticket counting.


EDIT:
[QUOTE=Gro

 

[seienchin88]

I like lock down, if its been 10min and the attackers havent captured 1 objective, the match islost, Id rather not drag on a hopeless battle were you cant even spawn for 40min. (Looking at you bridges)

Yeah.
But sometimes there are situation where atackers loose because of lockdown though they would have won otherwise. When the defenders have low reinforcements for example.
But this too seems realistic.
You dont have enough guys for a long fight so you throw all your last reinforcements to block the enemy atack and stop them so they reconsider atacking. Its a hazardous tactic but it is not completly unrealistic.

 

[Großadmial Thrawn]

If there is no time to play it - dont play it.

yeah.. just that Bridges as you said is more or less played the whole time on some servers... and unfortunatly i often play on those servers... i have no problem with the map but 2 up to 50 minute rounds again and again... normaly it's rotating between Bridges -> Bridhges -> Bridges -> Apartments -> Briges... maybe with once or twice something other between... and with bridges a "quick round" is just not possible... if you wanna keep you points... and if it ends only once eaarlier then at the last point or after 50 mins etc. i sometimes am really glad

 

[K98-Schütze[GER]]

@Gro

 

[Großadmial Thrawn]

it is still annoying if we have to defend a part and the enemy can't capture it and we still have to wait for an additional amount of time over 20 minutes until we win...

 

[Jank]

Yeah sometimes it's a bit annoying, but overall I think the lockdown timer is a good thing.

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

I'd take a guess and say at least 3-1 that the timer is way more annoying than good.

The fact that the timer is designed to make you rush around and be less careful is not a good thing.

 

[Jank]

Yeah but too much careful is also not a good thing. Bogging down due to overabundance of caution has cost many a life.

 

[Großadmial Thrawn]

just imagine what would have happened at Omaha beach if they bogged down...

 

[Jank]

[QUOTE=Gro

 

[=GG= Mr Moe]

I think the short 20-30 minute maps can survive without lockdown, afterall we aren't talking about a million man front with a battle set over several months.

 

[Großadmial Thrawn]

yeah, the short maps don't need it... i'd say keep it for every map that has a time of over 35 - 40 minutes

 

[Cwivey]

Isn't it up to the mapper to decide if specific objectives have the lockdown timer on them?

 

[K98-Schütze[GER]]

Isn't it up to the mapper to decide if specific objectives have the lockdown timer on them?

I have no idea unfortunally.
But I know it must go somehow.