Sway is WAY too small
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They fixed almost every flaw RO1 has: SMG recoil, inability to sprint over 10 seconds, LMG recoil, tank combat, excessive sway etc.
Only flaw I can think of is that after sprinting there isn't much sway but it's a minor gripe compared to what kind of BS RO1 had.
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An example:
Sprinting for the maximum time; hearing the avatar gasping for air and also him saying, he is out of air and needs to rest,
while putting up ironsight standing with the same amount of minimal sway if having full stamina and also being able to hold/control breath for even more steadier aim for a long time.
This is a little bit laughable for me and should be thought over again.
Right now stamina only effects how long you can sprint and nothing else (except triggering a voiceover if you run out of it).
Sprinting for the maximum time; hearing the avatar gasping for air and also him saying, he is out of air and needs to rest,
while putting up ironsight standing with the same amount of minimal sway if having full stamina and also being able to hold/control breath for even more steadier aim for a long time.
This is a little bit laughable for me and should be thought over again.
Right now stamina only effects how long you can sprint and nothing else (except triggering a voiceover if you run out of it).
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The more I hear about the game, the more convinced I am that I'm only going to play tank maps only.
Also, OP post 3 out of 8 likes... community officially taken over by CoD.
Edit: 3 out of 9
Also, OP post 3 out of 8 likes... community officially taken over by CoD.
Edit: 3 out of 9
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last night i noticed that my prone sway after a semi-long sprint was pretty substantial. therefore i'm not really buying into the 'more sway' suggestion.
seriously, there was a wall about 80-100m away, and the sway was going side to side covering a 5m area. this was while prone. zoom/hold breath reduced the sway a lot, but come on - any moderately healthy person can control their breathing after a sprint if entirely necessary.
seriously, there was a wall about 80-100m away, and the sway was going side to side covering a 5m area. this was while prone. zoom/hold breath reduced the sway a lot, but come on - any moderately healthy person can control their breathing after a sprint if entirely necessary.
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I would say, slightly increase sway for auto-rifles and smgs for balance sake. People who want it to be more "realistic" need to realize they are playing a video game and actual game-play balance should take preference over realism.
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The problem with adding sway is your giving an added benifit for camping and sitting in cover, it's already hard enough to kill someone when they are in cover and your exsposed attacking.
With reduced sway your balancing out the attackers vs defenders more.
Ok it's no realistic but for balance it's the only thing that will work.
With reduced sway your balancing out the attackers vs defenders more.
Ok it's no realistic but for balance it's the only thing that will work.
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We definately need more sway for unsupported weapons.
Currently we can do easy 150 meter headshots with rifle when standing.
It's just way too accurate and makes cover system meaningless as far as weapon support goes.
Sure you can still miss those shots, but only since targets move.
Currently we can do easy 150 meter headshots with rifle when standing.
It's just way too accurate and makes cover system meaningless as far as weapon support goes.
Sure you can still miss those shots, but only since targets move.
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And I can't beliave people think current sway from stamina is problem to shooting. You can catch your breath perfectly in some 10 seconds. Unrealistic but perhaps good for gameplay.
But what I wanna see is more sway when not out of breath. That would not engourage camping. Just the opposite it would mostly affect defenders who do more long range sniping.
But what I wanna see is more sway when not out of breath. That would not engourage camping. Just the opposite it would mostly affect defenders who do more long range sniping.
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Never played CoD or RO 1 (I'm a BF 1942 guy ) but I think weapon should not be as stable at it is now when aiming (especially if you're in Iron sight for a long time).
And there is another thing I don't get. When zooming, the soldier holds his breath. What's the point of this feature if it's not to aim more accurately? (and reduce sway).
Right now I'm aiming the same with or without holding my breath (and it seems I can hold it for 10 mins which is a great achievement from my soldier).
Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, I must confess I didn't read all the pages in this thread.
) but I think weapon should not be as stable at it is now when aiming (especially if you're in Iron sight for a long time).And there is another thing I don't get. When zooming, the soldier holds his breath. What's the point of this feature if it's not to aim more accurately? (and reduce sway).
Right now I'm aiming the same with or without holding my breath (and it seems I can hold it for 10 mins which is a great achievement from my soldier).
Sorry if this has been discussed earlier, I must confess I didn't read all the pages in this thread.
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Can you do it when you're out of breath like the avatar is when he's gasping for breath and saying he needs to stop? Not even without 2 seconds of pause? This isn't a question of rifle accuracy, but a person's stability after they've run to the point where they need a break.
This has nothing to do with "go back to RO1" so stop saying it is. I have no problem with zoom, I greatly enjoy the increased sprint time (RO1 was far too short in this regard), I like the increased accuracy of SMGs (and no I'm not an "SMG whore" myself), and almost everything else is an improvement.
Anyways you'll notice a lot of new members are posting and say they agree there's too little sway so there goes that argument.
I wish a dev would comment, so I could at least know whether this is a total waste of time or not. Looking over this thread it looks like most people, old hands and new alike agree that it needs to be upped. It's just that the "opposition" is more vocal.
If they want to fit more sway into the realism mode and leave relaxed as is that would be fine with me if a bit odd (just think it's a bit weird to change a core gameplay function depending on the mode---course COD did it with "hardcore" and weapon damage)
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If you run full out, crouched over and carrying gear, breathing heavy, heart-pounding, chest heaving ... you're not gonna be able to line up a 200m head shot until you (at the very least) regain control of your breathing. That takes a moment. That's all I'd like to see, that moment after a long sprint where a guy has to breath deep and regain control. I don't want him to take a friggin' knee for 10 seconds, I just want there to be some noticeable, temporary downside to sprinting until your stamina bar is empty ... besides not being able to sprint anymore.
For the record, I'm an "old" RO1 player. That said, I enjoy almost everything about RO2 and consider the game a vast improvement. This is one of the few aspects of the game I would prefer to see altered, at least at the Realistic game play level. I don't mind that the sprinting is faster, I actually prefer it, but I feel there needs to be a pronounced downside to prolonged running. Otherwise ... everyone runs ... everywhere ... all the time ... constantly ... ridiculous ...
For the record, I'm an "old" RO1 player. That said, I enjoy almost everything about RO2 and consider the game a vast improvement. This is one of the few aspects of the game I would prefer to see altered, at least at the Realistic game play level. I don't mind that the sprinting is faster, I actually prefer it, but I feel there needs to be a pronounced downside to prolonged running. Otherwise ... everyone runs ... everywhere ... all the time ... constantly ... ridiculous ...
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The more I hear about the game, the more convinced I am that I'm only going to play tank maps only.
Also, OP post 3 out of 8 likes... community officially taken over by CoD.
Edit: 3 out of 9
Perhaps you're in the wrong arena yourself. I only say this as a vehicle combat eschewer; these things have become all the more prevalent since UT2k4's Onslaught mode, and BF1942.
I say this purely from a (yes, yawn-yawn) SMG and balancing perspective that the Rifleman needs zero toning down because of their disadvantage against SMG users. Realism must be balanced against playability in my opinion. By the way yes I enjoy CoD (only HC Search and Destroy), but I've also been with RO since its UT2003 mod days.
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Is there any sway, at all? Its so easy to get kills now.. Kinda boring if you ask me but oh well ill still play but it wont feel the same :/
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Give us more sway please!
Make it go in a figure-8 like pattern so you can compensate with skill.
Position-(crouch, prone, supported) and breathing should have a greater effect on aim.
Make it go in a figure-8 like pattern so you can compensate with skill.
Position-(crouch, prone, supported) and breathing should have a greater effect on aim.
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as of the newest patch they introduced more sway when you are low on stamina and breathing hard, they modeled a breathing system so when you are breathing hard your weapon isn't as accurate. Why don't you guys test things before complaining about them, jeez.
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