there already is an outcry. just change it, no big deal.
"no effect on gameplay" is a terrible argument as always.
You are assuming it is already wrong...
And I stand by what I say :troll:
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there already is an outcry. just change it, no big deal.
"no effect on gameplay" is a terrible argument as always.
It appears that something is going on with the driver's visor.
:troll:****.
there already is an outcry. just change it, no big deal.
TWI took pictures themselves of the tank interiors, if there is a similar model with a different visor... well, TWI can't model all variants of the same tank out there.
Why do you guys think that the one TWI modeled doesn't exist? or that the visor of those pics is the only one?
The Fahrersehklappe 50 was designed specifically for a solid 50 mm thick plate as in the Panzer III J / Panzer IV F. It is a single housing. There is no way you can mix and match parts of it with an older fahrersehklappe.Mormegil said:Do we know for sure which version was most common in the Ausf J? Alan has previously mentioned how different surviving tanks of the same class often have variations. Some from being upgraded from previous marks, some with small changes in the factory without changing the mark / ausf, and some done in the field. Then there's having to put together a 60 year old tank for a museum, probably with parts from some other tanks.
Alan said they used the Bovington "D" for internal reference but in ROHOS pictures the panzer is clearly an "F2" externally. So in ROHOS its an interior D/exterior F2 combination?. In regards to the visor, its like putting a VHS tape into a Blueray 3D only player.Fedorov said:TWI took pictures themselves of the tank interiors, if there is a similar model with a different visor...well, TWI can't model all variants of the same tank out there. Why do you guys think that the one TWI modeled doesn't exist? or that the visor of those pics is the only one?
Am I in the ROHOS forums or the COD forums?-SiN-bswearer said:and rightfully so, nobody important should really give a ****
Nothing of what I put up earlier was from Google, son. They are book pages, personal pictures, and ROHOS screenshots. I don't know whats up with your attitude but to help calm it down here are more how do you say "Google":-SiN-bswearer said:exactly. TW employees have been in the actual tanks they photograph and model into their games......that in comparison to some WWII "armchair historians" who's evidence comes from using Google as their primary means of "research.
firstly, unless you're a 70 year old man, don't refer to other people as "son"....it can be viewed as disrespectful. secondly, the "" should have indicated the playful tone of my comment.
the second part of my comment was directed more at 213's exaggeration of the extent to which people have noticed or really care about what are still debatable "mistakes". please note that i didn't single out you or your posts as being of "Google or armchair historian" quality, but instead was just making a generalization in regards to the majority of evidence which pops up in forums such as these....
anyway, again the point is that the initial posts regarding these "inaccuracies" were made with a tone of insulting TW for making "mistakes"....additionally it's not like there's more than 5% of the people who have seen these tanks who even notice anything "wrong". that's why it's called rivet counting and why it really isn't that big of a deal, especially given the fact that we all have no clue how much research TW has actually done. but seeing as they've at least gotten to see some of these vehicles in person, my tendency would be to trust that they have replicated those examples to the best of their ability.
Could not have said it better.....
poor bswearer, he keeps on talking sense and he'll never get that close-to-a-kt rating he's hoping for :IS2: