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RS Reising M50

However, the Japanese didn't have a different smg, the Americans had the all around better (and sexier) Thompson. I personaly would rather see the effort go to something else.


Not true. At the beginning of WW2 the Thompson was extremely expensive, and the blish lock considered too complicated for a service weapon. Small numbers of 1928A1's were around, but it wasn't till the M1A1 appeared did it get widely distributed to American troops.


Odd that most of the lend-lease Thompsons were 1928's. Most have found their way home to the U.S. of A in the late 90's as decommissioned parts kits. I've machined new receivers for private collectors, compared to the M1A1 they're a PITA, but absolutely more beautiful as a piece of art/wall hanger.
 
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Not true. At the beginning of WW2 the Thompson was extremely expensive, and the blish lock considered too complicated for a service weapon. Small numbers of 1928A1's were around, but it wasn't till the M1A1 appeared did it get widely distributed to American troops.


Odd that most of the lend-lease Thompsons were 1928's. Most have found their way home to the U.S. of A in the late 90's as decommissioned parts kits. I've machined new receivers for private collectors, compared to the M1A1 they're a PITA, but absolutely more beautiful as a piece of art/wall hanger.
Thanks for all the information ^^, the M1928 was indeed uncommon , ( I saw some beta footage of RS with the M1A1?!?!) truth is the resing no matter how bad it's design was a major part of the soldiers equipment til late43/early44
 
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But please don't add the Experimental Model 2 submachine gun

Less than dozen Japanese Type 2's probably saw combat. 1000's of The Bergmann MP34 and Steyr MP34 were used in China by the IJA, and possibly were used in the Pacific. The Steyr looks alot like the Type 100 if I remember right. At least they're Axis weapons, albeit imports.
 
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Level 25 onwards
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Sights

The first pic doesn't have a magazine inserted. That's just the mag well. The 12 round magazines were the same exact length as the 20 round mags, and in fact were the same magazines, just had the sides creased in to make the magazine a single stack, not a double stack. The double stacks had reliability issues.
 
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This game really should have at the Reising, despite not being very reliable it was still a SMG at a time when most Marines were still armed with bolt action Springfield's.

But 12 round magazines until Level 25? That's torture. AFAIK the 12 round magazines were primarily for training and stateside use. A fire-selector was also standard, the exception being the semi-auto only M60 Reising.
 
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I think adding it is a great idea!

If the gun was a POS or not dosnt matter: it matter if it was used in numbers in the field, and thats the case.
Also it helps to balance the game a bit in favor to the japanese: the US already has enough firepower, so if they get a not so great weapon with a smaller magazine (20 rounds) it would be fair.
 
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Yes it did. It was a wartime expedient/transitional model before they switched to M1 production.

The wartime model retained the cutts compensator and top mounted bolt but went away with barrel ribbing and had a more simple rear sight. If the level 0-25 thompson was correct it would have the cutts compensator on there still. I've never seen a single photo of a thompson with top-mounted bolt and lacking a compensator from the war. A more appropriate transition would be an M1 thompson with 20 round mag to m1928a1 with 30 round mag, to m1928 with 50 round drum. Kinda fits from a veterancy point of view as a marine from earlier campaigns might be more likely to retain their m1928/a1's.
 
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The wartime model retained the cutts compensator and top mounted bolt but went away with barrel ribbing and had a more simple rear sight. If the level 0-25 thompson was correct it would have the cutts compensator on there still. I've never seen a single photo of a thompson with top-mounted bolt and lacking a compensator from the war. A more appropriate transition would be an M1 thompson with 20 round mag to m1928a1 with 30 round mag, to m1928 with 50 round drum. Kinda fits from a veterancy point of view as a marine from earlier campaigns might be more likely to retain their m1928/a1's.

Commonwealth definitely had the 0-25 style of M1928 Thompson, so the USMC likely did too.

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It would have been nice if they had added the M1A1 too. In that case, they could also split up the Type 100 SMG into the Type 100/40 and Type 100/44.
 
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The commonwealth having those ones doesn't nessesarily mean the Americans had very many. The Americans would give their own army the best and other armies what they didn't need.

Perhaps. The majority of Thompsons used by the Commonwealth were purchased privately in 1940-41. They received what Savage, Colt and other private companies made for them, it had little to do with US military command. The only major difference with these rare models and a regular M1928 was the addition of a Cutts Compensator. The presence of this device was dependent on the company that manufactured a given weapon. Due to the high recoil of .45APC, the Cutts Compensator really had no significant effect on performance, which was why the Americans cut it from the M1 Thompson re-design.
 
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Perhaps. The majority of Thompsons used by the Commonwealth were purchased privately in 1940-41. They received what Savage, Colt and other private companies made for them, it had little to do with US military command. The only major difference with these rare models and a regular M1928 was the addition of a Cutts Compensator. The presence of this device was dependent on the company that manufactured a given weapon. Due to the high recoil of .45APC, the Cutts Compensator really had no significant effect on performance, which was why the Americans cut it from the M1 Thompson re-design.

Pretty much. The only way you would notice the effect of the cutts compensator is if you were target shooting. Where the holes would be slightly less apart from one another. Didn't really matter if you were shooting at someone they would either be dead or even more dead.
 
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