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How to make M4 the best shotgun in the game.

Soanos

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Jul 2, 2009
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Ditch the original reload animation and replace it with this:



This will improve the reload speed massively and give it a marked advantage over the starting shotgun.
 

poosh

Grizzled Veteran
Jan 6, 2011
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...and make it one-shot Fleshpound. Then everybody will be using it for sure...
 

mikkou

Member
May 9, 2014
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Heh.

But actually, giving the M4 a mag or something to relead all 6 shells at once would definately make me consider using it. At the moment it has extremely fast firing rate but its useless due the slow reload and small capacity in general.

Wether a mag on M4 is realistic or not is another matter though.
 

Quintuplin

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 15, 2014
297
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Well, for tube based shotguns there are modifications so you can have a full load of shells in a pipe, and just slide em all in in one single motion. That'd give us the magazine-style all-at-once reload, but not require changing the gun itself completely
 

simplecat

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Apr 27, 2015
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I'd like to see M4 being replaced by any semi-auto shotgun that allows to replace whole tube/mag when reloading, like Maul, SRM M1216, Saiga-12 or USAS-12. Reloading shouldn't even be a problem on t3 shotgun.
 

Vintage

FNG / Fresh Meat
Oct 20, 2010
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I'd like to see M4 being replaced by any semi-auto shotgun that allows to replace whole tube/mag when reloading, like Maul, SRM M1216, Saiga-12 or USAS-12. Reloading shouldn't even be a problem on t3 shotgun.
Reloading isn't a terrible issue with tactical reload. M4 can't get replaced they already made all the art assets for it. It takes a long time to develop the assets for a new weapon. All the animations, sound effects, motion capture for tactical reload, etc..

Replacing it is not an option. It just needs some number tweaks.
 

rokk

FNG / Fresh Meat
Apr 1, 2015
72
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Considering the numbers between the M4 and AA12, the AA12 is too cheap, or the M4 is too expensive. A small tweak in pricing and perhaps extension to 7+1 ammo capacity would be benefit it?
 

jlgill333

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 29, 2015
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It doesn't need many changes. Add a magazine extension and perhaps reduce the price. It's the best precision shotgun in the game.
 

Shining Wolf

FNG / Fresh Meat
Dec 13, 2011
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Heh.

But actually, giving the M4 a mag or something to relead all 6 shells at once would definately make me consider using it. At the moment it has extremely fast firing rate but its useless due the slow reload and small capacity in general.

Wether a mag on M4 is realistic or not is another matter though.
Mag reload is part of what made KSG better, and for 1100 dosh and a heavier weight m4 isn't really doing much
 

The DooD

FNG / Fresh Meat
Sep 3, 2011
177
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The base reload should be faster, and the elite reload should be a double or quad stacked reload (so loading 2 or 4 shells in one hand movement). Also make the mag 7+1.

Either that, or buff the boomstick damage, and make boomstick tier 3 and M4 tier 2.
 

Aleflippy

Grizzled Veteran
Sep 18, 2012
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Make it shoots sharks that EXPLODE into mini-sharks that also EXPLODE and release a shower of deadly acid !

(Also I laugh at the reload... Postal 2 for the win :D )
 

headbox

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 8, 2015
284
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Always reload the M4 with one in the tube. It's one of the most powerful weapons in the game with a flashlight.
 

Greasy_Mullet

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 2, 2015
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As long as the choice is M4 or AA12, it will always be AA-12. Thats the wrong choice here.

The choice SHOULD be M4 or Double Barrel as 2nd weapon slot. But the weight on the M4 prevents this right now unless you take the perk. And IMO its not worth it to take the perk so you can pick the M4 over the DB.

Reduce the weight.
 

Lorkenpeist

FNG / Fresh Meat
May 4, 2015
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As long as the choice is M4 or AA12, it will always be AA-12. Thats the wrong choice here.

The choice SHOULD be M4 or Double Barrel as 2nd weapon slot. But the weight on the M4 prevents this right now unless you take the perk. And IMO its not worth it to take the perk so you can pick the M4 over the DB.

Reduce the weight.
Reduce the weight, or perhaps give support a 1/5lvl passive carry capacity bonus instead of a skill choice