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Bloody hell

Now the SS can feel useless yay!! At this point TWI should just remove the perk altogether. Then everybody will be happy! No more fun perk that beginners can play and learn the basics. Weez all hard kore naow!

And to be fair even if the changes were making normal alot harder, modern gamers could use a little hardening up anyway. Everything is a cake walk nowadays.

If you wanna get really hardcore, buy Unreal 2k4 and download the original KF 1.0 mod. Now that really is balls to the wall :p
 
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No more fun perk that beginners can play and learn the basics.

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Will you listen to what you just said?
 
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Now the SS can feel useless yay!! At this point TWI should just remove the perk altogether. Then everybody will be happy! No more fun perk that beginners can play and learn the basics. Weez all hard kore naow!

*Sigh*....."Easy to play" doesn't have to mean "Overpowered", look at the Pyro or Heavy from TF2. Easy to pick up but FAR from OP. Let's not talk about Natasha or +50hp Backburner... We should have an "easy to learn" perk, we should NOT have an "easy to be great with" perk. It can be easy to play without rewarding mediocrity more then some other perks reward exemplariness.

And personally, as the "Marksman's" class, SS should be quite far from the easy-to-learn perk, Commando, Support, or Medic would make more sense as the Beginner's class.

And to be fair even if the changes were making normal alot harder, modern gamers could use a little hardening up anyway. Everything is a cake walk nowadays.

My opinion is to give it time. Gaming is still not fully mainstream yet. Another half-generation or so and it'll be as entrenched (and socially acceptable) as movies and television, then the medium can begin to take itself much more seriously without getting laughed at. :p


The problem is that I really can't see video games shifting from consoles for a long time, and I don't see consoles shifting from the controller format anytime soon unless motion tech is perfected (I have doubts on the possibility of that). This leaves FPS and RTS, the two most "serious" game genres out in the cold. Can't really move the medium in a more competitive direction without those two genres (I mean, look at Korea & Singapore).
 
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And to be fair even if the changes were making normal alot harder, modern gamers could use a little hardening up anyway. Everything is a cake walk nowadays.

If you wanna get really hardcore, buy Unreal 2k4 and download the original KF 1.0 mod. Now that really is balls to the wall :p

Yeah, most games now are piss-easy. Damn whiny kids. Get off my lawn.
 
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And to be fair even if the changes were making normal alot harder, modern gamers could use a little hardening up anyway. Everything is a cake walk nowadays.

If you wanna get really hardcore, buy Unreal 2k4 and download the original KF 1.0 mod. Now that really is balls to the wall :p





I have ut2k4 and the kf mod installed on my pc now. I have the latest community patch, done by fans. I enjoyed kf so much I thought it was time to give back. I actually bought it. I haven't purchased a pc game in years. KF is worth it.

I played L4D2 for the first time a thought it was refreshing. The imitators have surpassed the masters, and did it without a billion different versions of the game too.

My purchase and participation in KF retail community is a thank you to Tripwire for providing me years of entertainment. If 1016 sucks I will return to the underground from whence I came and play the version I like.
 
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People are calling SS overpowered simply because they have the highest overall DPS.. and easily the lowest ammo consumption.. one single shot from the 9mm takes out any clot,gorefast ... 1-4 shots from the HC takes out anything below a scrake.. crossbow kills scrake and FP like they are nothing.. hell the crossbow can take out the patriarch too..

I don't see how the SS class is not op :| ...

At least all the other classes require skills to actually solo on suicidal..

However I am grateful for the new update.. everyone will now migrate over the support specialist as that is the new op class xD
 
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Maybe you have a better explanation how that dude killed the patty on suicidal with firebug?

That dude was me.

If you want the exact way I did it I'll give you a quick step by step.

1) I welded up the door around the corner at the end of that corridor so that the Patty would likely come from the lobby instead of the stairs.

2) I planted 2 pipe bombs on top of one another just in front of that corner leading to the doors. They were placed so that I could stand around that far corner out of site of the patty and the pipe bombs wouldn't hit me.

3) When the Patty spawned I lied in wait around that corner for him to come to me. I didn't move to peek around the corner as if he can fired a rocket or sprinted at me I would be dead. I could hear him getting closer and when I thought he was close enough I bounced all of my Incendiary grenades off the opposite wall and around the corner at him.

4) As they exploded he stood on the Pipe Bombs setting them off. This was my cue to race round the corner and start spraying my Flamethrower at him at point blank range. He had already been dropped to 1 knee so I had a good 4 or 5 seconds of sustained burn.

5) He ran off to heal to which I immediately ducked back behind my corner, killing any zeds that came for me alhtough most happened to spawn behind the locked door behind me. I listened carefully for him again and when I heard him close I dashed round the corner again and sprayed with everything I had. By a stroke of luck I did enough damage in the previous encounter to immediately make him drop to his knee again and once again get a long sustained burn.

6) This time however he ran into the red light room to heal, which I rapidly followed. Just before he could recover I lit him up and killed him before he could reach me.

I didn't take any damage the entire fight. I kept saying for months that the Firebug was a very powerful class in the right hands, and this picture proves it. There was no tricks, no cheap pipe stacking, no Xbow, just a couple of pipes, a flamethrower and a Firebug who knew what he was doing.
 
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That dude was me.

If you want the exact way I did it I'll give you a quick step by step.

1) I welded up the door around the corner at the end of that corridor so that the Patty would likely come from the lobby instead of the stairs.

2) I planted 2 pipe bombs on top of one another just in front of that corner leading to the doors. They were placed so that I could stand around that far corner out of site of the patty and the pipe bombs wouldn't hit me.

3) When the Patty spawned I lied in wait around that corner for him to come to me. I didn't move to peek around the corner as if he can fired a rocket or sprinted at me I would be dead. I could hear him getting closer and when I thought he was close enough I bounced all of my Incendiary grenades off the opposite wall and around the corner at him.

4) As they exploded he stood on the Pipe Bombs setting them off. This was my cue to race round the corner and start spraying my Flamethrower at him at point blank range. He had already been dropped to 1 knee so I had a good 4 or 5 seconds of sustained burn.

5) He ran off to heal to which I immediately ducked back behind my corner, killing any zeds that came for me alhtough most happened to spawn behind the locked door behind me. I listened carefully for him again and when I heard him close I dashed round the corner again and sprayed with everything I had. By a stroke of luck I did enough damage in the previous encounter to immediately make him drop to his knee again and once again get a long sustained burn.

6) This time however he ran into the red light room to heal, which I rapidly followed. Just before he could recover I lit him up and killed him before he could reach me.

I didn't take any damage the entire fight. I kept saying for months that the Firebug was a very powerful class in the right hands, and this picture proves it. There was no tricks, no cheap pipe stacking, no Xbow, just a couple of pipes, a flamethrower and a Firebug who knew what he was doing.


I'm looking forward to another picture from you killing him on Hell On Earth ^^
 
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