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would tripwire let the modes have the weapons and equipment from ro2/rs to help speed up the mod teams work
I'm pretty sure we would. But what weapons are you thinking of for the ARVN??
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ARVN or no? Need confirmation
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I'm pretty sure we would. But what weapons are you thinking of for the ARVN??
I've been tossing the idea around, from what I've been told the only thing that has been changed is the shaders. Polycounts, and texture sizes are the same. In other words, to me it looks like a strict import/export. Shouldn't be rocket science. Provided nothing like the animation system or anything like that has changed.
A lot of basic stuff. This is just for the ARVN off the top of my head of stuff already importable.
Springfield
Garand
Thompson
Carbine
These are just American weapons for the ARVN, from what I've read just about every Russian weapon in ro2 was used by the communists, and Viet Cong.
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alot of ww2 us stuff
alot of ww2 us stuff
arvn in the early 60s
i was thinking the
M1903A1 Springfield
M1903A4 Springfield
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
Browning Automatic Rifle
Browning M1917
Browning M1919A6
Mk 2 Hand Grenade
AN/M8 Smoke Grenade
Colt M1911A1 i think its in rs2
M1928A1 Thompson or Winchester Model 1912 "Trench Gun" or a maybe as ive seen no evidence of them in the hands of the arvn but the Chinese did give the North Vietnamese Thompson smg Springfield and more stuff that was captured from the Republic of China during the Chinese Civil War and n.v. had giving to the Vietcong. Moders will need to make a m1a1 Thompson tho as its not in rs but i think the Heroes of The West mod team are thinking of doing a m1a1 Thompson so hope we see the 20 and 30 magazine too.
South Vietnamese had this type of kit until the late 60s and then was giving modern weapons like the m16,m60 and more but some units still had ww2 weapons at the end of the war.
i almost forget the m3 grease gun but thats in rs2 and not rs
alot of this information is from Men-at-Arms Army of the Republic of Vietnam 1954-75 by Gordon L. Rottman.
alot of ww2 us stuff
arvn in the early 60s
i was thinking the
M1903A1 Springfield
M1903A4 Springfield
M1 Garand
M1 Carbine
Browning Automatic Rifle
Browning M1917
Browning M1919A6
Mk 2 Hand Grenade
AN/M8 Smoke Grenade
Colt M1911A1 i think its in rs2
M1928A1 Thompson or Winchester Model 1912 "Trench Gun" or a maybe as ive seen no evidence of them in the hands of the arvn but the Chinese did give the North Vietnamese Thompson smg Springfield and more stuff that was captured from the Republic of China during the Chinese Civil War and n.v. had giving to the Vietcong. Moders will need to make a m1a1 Thompson tho as its not in rs but i think the Heroes of The West mod team are thinking of doing a m1a1 Thompson so hope we see the 20 and 30 magazine too.
South Vietnamese had this type of kit until the late 60s and then was giving modern weapons like the m16,m60 and more but some units still had ww2 weapons at the end of the war.
i almost forget the m3 grease gun but thats in rs2 and not rs
alot of this information is from Men-at-Arms Army of the Republic of Vietnam 1954-75 by Gordon L. Rottman.
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Research now, build up a team and start thr first modelling approaches now. Ask the Heroes of the West-Team how they've added additional fractions and make thr first version of the mod 1 week after RS2 release. The faster it is finished more players it will get.
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Research now, build up a team and start thr first modelling approaches now. Ask the Heroes of the West-Team how they've added additional fractions and make thr first version of the mod 1 week after RS2 release. The faster it is finished more players it will get.
Lol 1 week? Seems you are waiting for a miracle.
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Not really. I'm already pretty much an expert at muddling with different factions, the hardest part will be the models and textures.
The main ARVN can just be the US body + Vietnamese head, the Rangers can be the USMC Hero uniforms from RS1 as a placeholder.
The main ARVN can just be the US body + Vietnamese head, the Rangers can be the USMC Hero uniforms from RS1 as a placeholder.
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Well, work can be done without the release of RS2 because the most time-expensive work, the modeling and the research can be done beforehand. The actual coding can be done in a week with the help of someone who already did that, e.g. the Heroes Of The West Team. Or am I so wrong?
I mean.. the first version of the mod not an fully fleshed out community made expansion. HoE launched way to late in RO2's lifecycle.
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I mean, a full week, would be possible, if you did it purely by work hours, in other words, 30 or so hours in a week, provided that the models, textures, and all of that stuff is ready to be imported. Though this would be pushing it for people. I think I might barely be able to pull something like that off in 30 hours, it all depends for me (or anyone) on how it is implemented.
This would be a purely model replacement of characters, and basic structures of the weapons, FX, sounds, etc.
Nothing like a tank or vehicle, or say a new feature. Not voices, or say a new map.
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Creating a new faction (or swapping factions) is really easy if you know the basics of UE3 modmaking.
It all boils down to editing the TeamInfo (recon planes/music), a couple changes to PlayerController (voices), making new Pawns (models), and the UI/HUD icons.
That's it. Like I said the code aspect is really simple, it's the art that's so time consuming.
It all boils down to editing the TeamInfo (recon planes/music), a couple changes to PlayerController (voices), making new Pawns (models), and the UI/HUD icons.
That's it. Like I said the code aspect is really simple, it's the art that's so time consuming.
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You guys have definitely done your research. I applaud that, and would like to thank you for taking the time to do it, not just saying "Welp, there's probably maybe a SV flag there."
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The Saipan map in RS1 had flags bearing the corporate logo of the South Seas Development Company, a detail completely unnecessary but cool as hell.
I trust we'll see some fun surprises in RS2 wherever they learn something fascinating.
I trust we'll see some fun surprises in RS2 wherever they learn something fascinating.
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if we have south vietnam force in game . think Tripwire should focus on vietnamization era : NVA vs ARVN
operation Lam Son 719
summer 1972 :
1st battle of quangtri . 2nd battle of quangtri , retake quangtri citadel , defense in xuan loc
in that time ARVN have same weapon as US force . so no need add too much old era weapon
operation Lam Son 719
summer 1972 :
1st battle of quangtri . 2nd battle of quangtri , retake quangtri citadel , defense in xuan loc
in that time ARVN have same weapon as US force . so no need add too much old era weapon
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Yeah I was thinking the same. Although I doubt they'll be in release, modders should do that time period during the early 70s. Xuan Loc would be a great battle to add
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It would be cool if most of the team was comprised of ARVN with dated equip. There would be four or five slots which are comprised of American Military Advisors with modern weaponry.
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actually the battle of quangtri , dong ha , quangtri's old citadel in summer 1972 are the most heavy and brutal battle of vietnam war . weapons used , manpower , vehicles , casualties of both side = ****ing huge
1st battle = NVA offensive with massive troops , tank , arty , heavy weapons
2nd battle = ARVN counter attack with massive troops , tank , arty ,heavy weapon , helicopter , attack aircraft + us naval arty , us airforce bombing support
the fight to retake quang tri old citadel = the most brutal close combat battle (include hand to hand combat with bayonet , knife , shovel ) in vietnam war
i know some vietnamese vet from both side join that battle . thay all said :meat grinder for both side
life casualties : huge , alot of tank , APC burn , alot of helicopter shot down (NVA got stela-2 heatseeker MANPADS in that time)
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Honestly, if the ARVN were ever put into the game officially, all these battles would have been great to add. I think that it's up to the modding community at this point however.
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