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Wow.
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What I want is someone to explain to me how making the tiger stronger, and the SU76 and T60 weaker turns the game into a "German Tank Rapefest". I mean honestly, how does beefing up the German tanks make it WORSE for the Germans 
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I would just like to say
WOW!
Some things will never change - people complaining about patches, and then start whinging about what should be in the next patch....
Out of all the multiplayer games I've played, this patch is the best and most significant patch I've ever seen. Congrats to TW for superb support, I think the game has improved tenfold.
WOW!
Some things will never change - people complaining about patches, and then start whinging about what should be in the next patch....
Out of all the multiplayer games I've played, this patch is the best and most significant patch I've ever seen. Congrats to TW for superb support, I think the game has improved tenfold.
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You missed my main point.Crim said:
Oh hey, you even left it out when you quoted me. Here it is, again:
[tR]Mad Mac said:
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I'm afraid to say I didn't miss your point at all. Thanks for assuming I did and jumping at the chance to act condescending, though.
Bondarevo is fun as hell, now, though. Oh, god, that brave little stug, one-shotting tanks left and right.
There are still some funky bounces and such on the soviet tanks, but other than that, patch = good! And the new map-loading system is even better. So yay.
My only complaint is the lack of shot traps and crew-damage, but there's still plenty of time for that to be put in, right? Right?
Right?
P.S. I still hate the IS-2.
Bondarevo is fun as hell, now, though. Oh, god, that brave little stug, one-shotting tanks left and right.
There are still some funky bounces and such on the soviet tanks, but other than that, patch = good! And the new map-loading system is even better. So yay.
My only complaint is the lack of shot traps and crew-damage, but there's still plenty of time for that to be put in, right? Right?
Right?
P.S. I still hate the IS-2.
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Crim I agree with you on the Soviets getting super duper ultra uber 1337 equipment that was completely impossible to get in the real war, but you need to shut up and stop complaining.
The patch was just released, come on. You're already asking for another one.
Give Tripwire some time.
The patch was just released, come on. You're already asking for another one.
Give Tripwire some time.
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Been playing a lot tonight, acting as a driver on tank maps for random gunners going on multiple tank killing sprees, taking on multiple targets at once and timing angling as each tank fires so that we could survive multiple impacts of shells.
Been hella fun, tanking is better than ever in game.
Got in a t60 on bondarevo and flanked the enemy, hit them in the sides and rear and took out 3-4 tanks in a row in moments several times.
Just play the game, practice and you will suddenly realise just how well expereinced players can shrug off shells by using their armor to maximum effectiveness and position themselves to hit back hard against unangled and weaker armor.
The tanks aren't broken, you playing style must be, an experienced tanker in an IS2 at range can shrug off almost anything and hit back like a sledgehammer.
Been hella fun, tanking is better than ever in game.
Got in a t60 on bondarevo and flanked the enemy, hit them in the sides and rear and took out 3-4 tanks in a row in moments several times.
Just play the game, practice and you will suddenly realise just how well expereinced players can shrug off shells by using their armor to maximum effectiveness and position themselves to hit back hard against unangled and weaker armor.
The tanks aren't broken, you playing style must be, an experienced tanker in an IS2 at range can shrug off almost anything and hit back like a sledgehammer.
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Crim said:
Ah. In return, please cease the condescending tone towards me in the future as well, regardless of your state of mind, in which you were mistakingly assuming I'm thinking you are all a bunch of CS leet talking whiners.Crim said:
Thanks.
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eh... the tiger is near damn impenetrable when angled correctly. I just finished a 4min shoot out against 17 russian tanks. 14 of which were destroyed. The tiger is now the tiger it should be, now all I need to play in is the "KING TIGER" only tank in the war to never have been penetrated during it's service in WWII.
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The_Cook said:
I think the side and rear armour of the King Tiger, could and probably would have been penetrated by certain allied weapons during WW2.
And some of the super heavy rounds, used by certain Russian bunker busters, would have probably caused massive internel damage that would have killed the crew, even if it didn't penetrate the armour.
I'd still love to see it in RO sometime in a future patch/addon though.
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I'd like to chime in with a "Kudos, devs - great stuff". I never had as much fun in RO as last night. Getting one shot kills consistently when the situation dictated it, still being able to have prolonged fire-fights when both sides had good positions/competent crews.
It really is loads better now. And the Panther, Oh man that thing is a brute now I had several duels with Panthers sitting in my IS2 and I ended up dead more often than not.
Havent tested the new and improved Tiger yet because for some reason everyone flocked to the German side on the Panzer maps Will do it tonight.
Oh - and the new Arad map! Awesome!
It really is loads better now. And the Panther, Oh man that thing is a brute now
I had several duels with Panthers sitting in my IS2 and I ended up dead more often than not. Havent tested the new and improved Tiger yet because for some reason everyone flocked to the German side on the Panzer maps
Will do it tonight. Oh - and the new Arad map! Awesome!
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Well... as far as I've heard from a Panzermann, a sitting tank WAS a dead tank, so we can be glad if that's now in game. It can only improve the gameplay!Lionel-RIchie said:
Did someone tested what happens now with a good placed shell at the turret rings or at the tracks? I was trying yesterday... but we were constantly owned by the boys of the other company, so we didn't give a single shot
(no joke, unfortunately... but I was laughing till late in the night!!!).
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Personally I think the patch is great. The panzer IV can now stand somewhat of a chance of taking the IS2. i fail to see why people are complaining about the Germa tanks not being as good, I've one shot killed the IS2 with the Panzer IV, which before the patche was basiclly impossible.
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Nice work on fixing the penetration issues.
But Crim's point is correct, even though his message was structured negatively.
Now that one-shot kills are possible, the Germans tankers are going to have a VERY tough time on most of the tank maps.
The solution, IMHO, isn't to bother with the PzIV H or any other late-war medium. If Tripwire saw it as necessary to add the IS-2 to their game, fine. But adding the IS-2 without adding SOMETHING on the German side that would be it's equivalent is not so great. There are several options:
Royal Tiger: Personally, I'm against this since it was rather rare, and simply ups the ante on the "uber" crap. I hate the "uber" crap.
Jadpanther: This thing would be able to take out the IS-2 and has insane frontal armor. A good choice, IMHO.
JadTiger: Too uber, IMHO, but would also be applicable.
Elefant: Uber and rare, but since it mainly saw action on the Eastern front, I think it would be acceptable.
Yes it should. The IS-2's frontal armor is sloped and the panther really should have NO hope of penetrating it frontally except perhaps at the driver's hatch.
I find this statement extremely disturbing coming from a dev. Instead of setting maps in 1943 where the Germans can dominate, you instead set them in 1944/45 and leave out a bunch of German tanks so the Russians can dominate?
I have NO problems with historical accuracy. I really think there SHOULD be a map or 2 set in 1943 where the Germans have the superior tanks and are on the offence, just like there should be a map or 2 set in 1945 where the Russians get their IS2s and THEY are on the offense.
But on a map where BOTH sides are trying to grab land, the tank balance should be similar. I don't feel that the currently modelled tanks represent an even matchup between the Russians and the Germans.
PS- Please note that I am not a Germanophile. In fact, I dislike Germanophiles with a passion. I am, in fact, a Francophile, so I really don't have much bias when it comes to this game. I have stated time and time again that the Tiger is NOT under-performing in this game (minus the penetration issue which you guys just addressed). The problem is that the majority of the "tank" maps done so far give the Russians extremely late-war vehicles while the Germans are in mid-war ones.
IMHO, the JadPanther or Elefant would fix this issue.
But Crim's point is correct, even though his message was structured negatively.
Now that one-shot kills are possible, the Germans tankers are going to have a VERY tough time on most of the tank maps.
The solution, IMHO, isn't to bother with the PzIV H or any other late-war medium. If Tripwire saw it as necessary to add the IS-2 to their game, fine. But adding the IS-2 without adding SOMETHING on the German side that would be it's equivalent is not so great. There are several options:
Royal Tiger: Personally, I'm against this since it was rather rare, and simply ups the ante on the "uber" crap. I hate the "uber" crap.
Jadpanther: This thing would be able to take out the IS-2 and has insane frontal armor. A good choice, IMHO.
JadTiger: Too uber, IMHO, but would also be applicable.
Elefant: Uber and rare, but since it mainly saw action on the Eastern front, I think it would be acceptable.
SasQuatch said:
Yes it should. The IS-2's frontal armor is sloped and the panther really should have NO hope of penetrating it frontally except perhaps at the driver's hatch.
I'm sorry i didnt design a tiger ownage map for you guys set in 1943, where you can hop in your fav 'mythical' tank and own the entire russian team on your own
You will have to wait for a map like that somewhat.
I find this statement extremely disturbing coming from a dev. Instead of setting maps in 1943 where the Germans can dominate, you instead set them in 1944/45 and leave out a bunch of German tanks so the Russians can dominate?
I have NO problems with historical accuracy. I really think there SHOULD be a map or 2 set in 1943 where the Germans have the superior tanks and are on the offence, just like there should be a map or 2 set in 1945 where the Russians get their IS2s and THEY are on the offense.
But on a map where BOTH sides are trying to grab land, the tank balance should be similar. I don't feel that the currently modelled tanks represent an even matchup between the Russians and the Germans.
PS- Please note that I am not a Germanophile. In fact, I dislike Germanophiles with a passion. I am, in fact, a Francophile, so I really don't have much bias when it comes to this game. I have stated time and time again that the Tiger is NOT under-performing in this game (minus the penetration issue which you guys just addressed). The problem is that the majority of the "tank" maps done so far give the Russians extremely late-war vehicles while the Germans are in mid-war ones.
IMHO, the JadPanther or Elefant would fix this issue.
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