I think that Yoshiro confirmed that the ranking system can be disabled. (and I also seem to remember that he said he'd prefer it off).
Don't quote me on that though.
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News from the Crosshairs interview
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Don't quote me on that though.
they said they were doing it because of the complaints about blurriness being really annoying, whilst still maintaining that feel about you being under fire.
also, they said it's only desaturating a little, eg from ro2 colours back to ro1 colours :IS2:
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great compromise
thats the reason i hardly ever play DH because i start to get really annoyed by the never ending snapping noise...
i can appreciate why it makes sense, but for me it just sucks the enjoyment out of it when it is that intense
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Like Ramm said, there is no point in having the 3d voip at all, something anyone can circumvent in two seconds, simply not worth it. You'll still have the pre-defined voice commands, that should be enough when it comes to that.
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i understand why some people might feel that way but for me it is just too unpleasant to enjoy
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But colt, that would be a rational design option!
I didn't get much of an opportunity to watch the podcast so I cant imagine their reasoning for dismissing such an idea, hopefully somebody can summarize the highlights of it.
Did you read anything in the post you quoted?
Here's the key points:
How is there any counter-argument to this? It's a feature every shooter should have, it simply makes the gameplay better. If people want to use squad channels then simply add a feature like arma wherin you can toggle your voice channel to talk to specific groups of people (IE people in vehicles, or your officers). But when you're duking it in a street, it's a pain in the *** to have to voice a tiny tidbit of information such as "look out" or "grenade" to the entire team. Likewise it's a pain to have to reach over and hit one of your complicated numpad configurations to blurt out a "general command" that cannot be directed at any particular person. Why should anybody need to memorize a complete numpad commutation scheme when they can instead just press N and speak to people like a normal human being.
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An interesting tidbit I deduced from the cast was that if you change class your only option at respawn is back a 'spawn 1'.
ie. you don't get the options to spawn close to your SL or closer to the spawn.
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ie. you don't get the options to spawn close to your SL or closer to the spawn.
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i think thats the point single shot should be for everyone, but so long as it does not take ages to get.
edit, I wonder if the unlocks will be an option to use, also think that drums should use stamina faster
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I swear, sometimes people read, and dont understand a word.
The idea is NOT to force everyone to use 3d chat. But to ADD it so that players in the vicinity of other players KNOW that the speaker is local. By doing this you could yell "grenade" and the teammates around you would know to haul ***. Players would still be using squad/team chat, however there would be some indicator if that voice communication was coming from a distance greater then regular voice travel range. Why would someone want to circumvent something that gives them a large advantage?! * commences to smacking head on keyboard while mumbling about the million monkeys on a million keyboards *
as an edit I would like a button for 3d chat, or single tap the talk button is local, double tap is global.
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I have not listened the interview yet but if he truly said that then he is just plain wrong. I bet Ramm has just convinced himself that this is the only possible outcome of the 3D voip so they don't have to worry about implementing the system.
I wonder if they see as well that there is no point of implementing video options to the game cos ppl with CCC will override them...
Even without the 3D voip, half of the players will be using some other voice comm system anyways or not using one at all cos team-all-talk-brain-walkie-talkies don't really allow the peace of conversation. It really doesn't make sense to explain to the whole team where one enemy soldier is positioned when you just need to inform the guy next to you. When you start describing this kind of detailed info to a team-all-talk or to even squad-all-talk, it literally sucks the immersion out of the game.
Once again we have to wait some mod-team with balls to implement realistic 3D voip cos mainstream teams don't have the guts.
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I have not listened the interview yet but if he truly said that then he is just plain wrong. I bet Ramm has just convinced himself that this is the only possible outcome of the 3D voip so they don't have to worry about implementing the system.
I wonder if they see as well that there is no point of implementing video options to the game cos ppl with CCC will override them...
Even without the 3D voip, half of the players will be using some other voice comm system anyways or not using one at all cos team-all-talk-brain-walkie-talkies don't really allow the peace of conversation. It really doesn't make sense to explain to the whole team where one enemy soldier is positioned when you just need to inform the guy next to you. When you start describing this kind of detailed info to a team-all-talk or to even squad-all-talk, it literally sucks the immersion out of the game.
Once again we have to wait some mod-team with balls to implement realistic 3D voip cos mainstream teams don't have the guts.
They aren't a mainstream team. I've played Battlefield 2/2142 for over 2 thousand hours, and I can tell you straight up that I've never cared about having 3D VOIP.
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I have not listened the interview yet but if he truly said that then he is just plain wrong. I bet Ramm has just convinced himself that this is the only possible outcome of the 3D voip so they don't have to worry about implementing the system.
I wonder if they see as well that there is no point of implementing video options to the game cos ppl with CCC will override them...
Even without the 3D voip, half of the players will be using some other voice comm system anyways or not using one at all cos team-all-talk-brain-walkie-talkies don't really allow the peace of conversation. It really doesn't make sense to explain to the whole team where one enemy soldier is positioned when you just need to inform the guy next to you. When you start describing this kind of detailed info to a team-all-talk or to even squad-all-talk, it literally sucks the immersion out of the game.
Once again we have to wait some mod-team with balls to implement realistic 3D voip cos mainstream teams don't have the guts.
Again its useless and in my opinion and surely many others a waste of resources especially from what you get out of it which is nothing.. It's not hard to be on ts in a structured manner with up to 30 people, and as far as i know didnt we get a system in which you can point the direction of the enemy and the direction will show up on the map?
Comparing video options to this is just bs dude.. not the same thing.
We'll have vehicle chat, team chat and public chat and it works in RO1.
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TWI is now taking the mainstream route on voip.
And you playing bf2 and not caring for 3d voip is supposed to convince us all that this is all good
Have you even played any game with 3d voice chat? Bf2 didnt have the balls to implement it so PR did it.
Same will happen with some RO2 mod as well... at least i hope so...
If immersion is no concern for you then, yes, you probably will get nothing out of it.
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Umm, immersion is a big concern for me, however not having 3d voip does not vobble my sense of immersion. Project Reality is a mod, its not a commercial product and I mean dang its not about balls its about the reasoning behind it and if its worth devoting any resources to it.
They've simply come to the conclusion that its not worth it at this time and I agree 100%, if you wanna call them cowards so be it but TW are currently releasing sdk & tools, dedis, tons of client/server side options with already mods in the works etc.. what more could you possibly ask for. If its that important to you leave it up to the mod community or the group that enjoys 3d voip to implement it.
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The only people who could possibly speak against 3D voice are the people who've never used it in a game they like. I imagine if they had used it then there wouldn't be any argument about the "purpose" of such a system since it simply makes the game more fun to play, and makes the atmosphere of it all more immersive. Aside from the "fun" aspects, it also propagates teamwork.
In battlefield 2 all the voip is done with your squad, there is no annoying "teamside" voice options. I suppose this is acceptable, but there's no doubt 3d voice audio is better, especially when speaking to people that are not in your squad. I'm beginning to doubt you've used it in a good game, so I can't imagine you have much base for your opinion.
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It's not a matter of using it in a "good" game, i simply dislike it for what it is whenever i try it. Its something that could be used for a niche community but nothing that would benefit teamplay in public matches it would just cause even more issues. I dont mind them throwing it in as an option, options are great but i also think its reasonable that they're not devoting any resources to it at this point.
Having squad,vehicle and team based voips == more than enough.
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