how much would you pay for RO HOS?

[Colt .45 killer]

Very realistic shooters are a niche market, but there's nothing wrong with a niche market, if you do a propper job of the game, it will attract a very loyal fanbase, who will be be lining up to buy your next games too, this beeing precisely why most people here will probably pre-order Ro2 when they get the chance.

Realistic shooters might have been a niche when RO came out, but lots of games now have a "hardcore" mode which attempts some level of realism. and If you go and check the server counts you'll see that more people are starting to play "hardcore" modes over regular. (I put hardcore in quotes because its still feels arcadish for me..). I'd say that the market for a game like RO, or the more improved and user friendly RO:HOS is growing and probably a hell of a lot larger then it was when RO came out.


EDIT:

Just wanted to add that I'd like to see a collectors edition of HOS come out ( could even be digital ) With free trials that can be given away. Ideally make them 3 day to 1 week trials, and award a new one to each collector once per month. Nothing annoys me more then expiring guest passes, I get them and say " ohh goody, now I can get some one to try RO and love it", then a month or two later when I find some one who would probably like it the passes have expired...
(they are also amazing for lan parties to pass the game out to others who dont have it, and yes at many lan parties where I have used KF guest passes, the people have bought if afterwards. I'm probably responsible for some 4-5 KF copies other then mine being purchased..)

This lets your veterans ( who have payed the price of 2x the regular game ) advertise by giving the game out to potential buyers ( word of mouth advertising is cheap and effective yknow ). What would be really awesome is a record of how many steam accounts you have given guest passes to who later bought the game(think bragging rights).

 

[Fedorov]

Nah. Just had to parry the Bolshevik's fanboyish blows.

All... unconventional wording was for the effect.

Don't try to hide it now, you like it just as much as the guy in your sig (the one with the cosplaying KT in the background) who is clearly using the bag to hide his masturbation.

 

[Snuffeldjuret]

Lets see the current stats:

27 people would pay 100$ for the game and 49 people would pay 50$.

49*50$ equals 2450$ and 27*100 equals 2700$ for Tripwire. Looks like the higher the price, more cows there is to milk

It's more like 27 + 3 + 2 + 17 + 49 that would buy it for 50$, not just 49 ^^.

98 * 50$ = 4900$
which is way more than 2700$

for 40$ though, 33 more ppl would buy:
131 * 40$ = 5240$
which is a bit even more =).

 

[Hausfeld]

Don't try to hide it now, you like it just as much as the guy in your sig

Alright, you're right. Red hordes being cut down in droves during clumsy, unwieldy attacks definitely keeps the Popovs off me as I clamber atop any shoebox foolish enough to get too close. You could say I'm more concerned over a vodka inebriated strelok than I am over the rear-facing broom handle standard on all shoeboxes.

(the one with the cosplaying KT in the background)

You defend your false-deity so passionately! It's almost admirable.

who is clearly using the bag to hide his masturbation.

Actually, I'm pretty sure that's a teller mine bound to a steilhandgranate... but that's just my observation.


And to stay on topic, I'd probably pay up to 60 USD.

 

[red army]

Nah. Just had to parry the Bolshevik's fanboyish blows.

All... unconventional wording was for the effect.

uhh, right. All i said was that red army movies and battles were epic, and you consider it "fanboyish"? Your comment was, if anything, much more fanboyish and unnecessary than mine. Your an obvious nazi fanboy, but that's fine 'cause you were defeated, but please do everyone a favor and stfu with your neo-nazi trolling.

 

[Hausfeld]

uhh, right. All i said was that red army movies and battles were epic, and you consider it "fanboyish"? Your comment was, if anything, much more fanboyish and unnecessary than mine. Your an obvious nazi fanboy, but that's fine 'cause you were defeated, but please do everyone a favor and stfu with your neo-nazi trolling.

Oh ho ho HO.

When one thinks of a fanboy, what comes to mind? Usually the image conjured for me is an individual who defends a point of view in a determined, fierce and often times ignorant manner. They often times wrap themselves in the identity of the object or ideal they are trying to protect and promote. What separates a fanboy from a proponent is that the former will not listen to reason, and the former will never change their views even when credible arguments or evidence are presented to them.

Yes. I am a proponent of the German Armed Forces (all branches, Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe and the SS) of the Second World War. I feel that it's crucial that the history of the "defeated" nation be learned and observed on equal footing as the histories of the "victorious" nations.

Because in the end... that's half of the entire history of World War Two.


Now that I've needlessly defended myself and made clear my definition of fanboyism (nice name by the way, Red Army, you're not biased at all) there is a final point I must make obvious. I am not a National Socialist. I never have been and most likely never will.

I study the history of the defeated for the sole purpose of focusing on their armed forces. I have no shrine to Adolf Hitler, I have no photographs of Goebbels, Goring, Bormann or Himmler adorning my walls... I make it clear to s-e-p-e-r-a-t-e the politics from the military because , let's face it, the former is nothing really worth getting excited over. Countless others have focused on nothing BUT the Nazi party and the politics of the Reich. That is fine, that is a crucial part of the Second World War. I have chosen to focus my studies on the common German soldat, panzermann and flieger and their respective units and operations.

Ultimately, I'm simply perturbed when people disregard the lives of the millions of German dead who sacrificed everything for what they felt was right at the time. And of course I'm also saddened when real "neo-nazis" and "nazi fanboys" (use the word Nazi enough, Red Army?) downplay the suffering of all the Allied soldiers who died for the cause THEY believed was right at the time.

Equality. That is really all I ever ask.


I hope my response hasn't put in a foul enough mood that not even Soviet War Movies and their Ourrah inspired human waves can cheer you back up.

 

[Fedorov]

Nah, you are a fanboy and you know it

 

[hockeywarrior]

Nah, you are a fanboy and you know it

*raises hand*

I'm sorry, I've played RO since 2004. Despite my best intentions, I am inevitably a fan boy. It's impossible to deny.

Of course, that doesn't mean I don't ever criticize Tripwire ... it just means that I'll buy their product regardless

 

[BlackLabel]

I make it clear to s-e-p-e-r-a-t-e the politics from the military because , let's face it, the former is nothing really worth getting excited over.

Thats a thing you allways hear from people facinated to a certain degree....you CANT seperate the two. If you do you learn NOTHING.

 

[Unterscharfuhrer]

me i would pay up to 100$ for this how much would you?

I will pay whatever it takes!

 

[Hausfeld]

That is the argument I hear quite frequently. The point of studying history is so never to repeat it, right? Thing is, I can difrentiate between right and wrong. I'm not some neo-nazi failure-in-life youth. Before I began my military studies on the Third Reich, I forced myself to review many hundreds of articles, accounts, and pieces of literature regarding the Holocaust and War crimes committed by all branches of the German military. I took what I learned into consideration, I heeded the warnings that shrieked throughout the halls of Auschwitz, Dachau and Buchenwald. I reflected on everything I had learned.

And then?

Knowing full well the atrocities committed by the regime, I decided to observe the history of Nazi Germany OBJECTIVELY compared to EMOTIONALLY. Only when such an approach is adopted can one, knowing fully the dark side of that piece of history, fully commit themselves to studying ALL sides of that piece of history.

I am not ignorant. Please do not assume so in the future.

 

[red army]

Oh ho ho HO.

When one thinks of a fanboy, what comes to mind? Usually the image conjured for me is an individual who defends a point of view in a determined, fierce and often times ignorant manner. They often times wrap themselves in the identity of the object or ideal they are trying to protect and promote. What separates a fanboy from a proponent is that the former will not listen to reason, and the former will never change their views even when credible arguments or evidence are presented to them.

Yes. I am a proponent of the German Armed Forces (all branches, Wehrmacht, Kriegsmarine, Luftwaffe and the SS) of the Second World War. I feel that it's crucial that the history of the "defeated" nation be learned and observed on equal footing as the histories of the "victorious" nations.

Because in the end... that's half of the entire history of World War Two.


Now that I've needlessly defended myself and made clear my definition of fanboyism (nice name by the way, Red Army, you're not biased at all) there is a final point I must make obvious. I am not a National Socialist. I never have been and most likely never will.

I study the history of the defeated for the sole purpose of focusing on their armed forces. I have no shrine to Adolf Hitler, I have no photographs of Goebbels, Goring, Bormann or Himmler adorning my walls... I make it clear to s-e-p-e-r-a-t-e the politics from the military because , let's face it, the former is nothing really worth getting excited over. Countless others have focused on nothing BUT the Nazi party and the politics of the Reich. That is fine, that is a crucial part of the Second World War. I have chosen to focus my studies on the common German soldat, panzermann and flieger and their respective units and operations.

Ultimately, I'm simply perturbed when people disregard the lives of the millions of German dead who sacrificed everything for what they felt was right at the time. And of course I'm also saddened when real "neo-nazis" and "nazi fanboys" (use the word Nazi enough, Red Army?) downplay the suffering of all the Allied soldiers who died for the cause THEY believed was right at the time.

Equality. That is really all I ever ask.


I hope my response hasn't put in a foul enough mood that not even Soviet War Movies and their Ourrah inspired human waves can cheer you back up.

Blah Blah i dont give a damn about your studies, and i never attacked them neither. But you know in your heart that you started this, with this ignorant post of yours

And seeing them slaughtered in front of well prepared MG-stellungen makes me cream my jeans, so I know where you're coming from.

That was offensive while my expression of how much i love soviet ww2 war movies and their epicness wasn't and YOU KNOW IT. Stop trying to act like your the victim of trolling here. You started flaming. Not me.

Edit: Man Hausfeld, the more i read this post of you trying to sound so "professional" the more i laugh. I just realized that in your description of fanboyism you just described YOURSELF. I mean since when did i defend any point of view in an "ignorant, fierce" manner? All i said was i like red army movies and charges, THAT's IT. I wasn't like the 7thguardsdiv guy nor was i saying anything negative about germans. I just said red army was epic. Now your comment...that's totally what you described LOL.

 

[Hausfeld]

I just realized that in your description of fanboyism you just described YOURSELF.

Hmm, even though I've clearly stated my opinions change if I uncover or am presented sensible evidence that they are wrong.

All i said was i like red army movies and charges, THAT's IT.

And my quipping little response was met with you calling me a Neo-Nazi fanboy. So YOU best refrain from throwing your hands up and crying foul against the big bad Fascist troll that you did "nothing" to provoke.

Blah Blah

That seems to be the best response to logic these days. I know, f*ck me for trying to approach things logically.


Red Army likes movies where the Soviet forces achieve victory, and I like movies where German forces achieve victory. Insults aside, that's really all that needs to be taken away from this exchange. Speaking for myself, apologies for the thread derailment.

 

[LemoN]

I'd pay between 50-60$, as that would be around 36-45€.
Of course TWI would have to make steam lose that sh*tty $=€ policy. :S

 

[Snuffeldjuret]

Why not just buy the game off steam?
For me Black Ops on steam is 60 euro, off steam in a store 50 euro. Last games I've bought I have pre ordered in a stor and they have mailed me the game so I got it the morning of the release day =).

 

[CCCP]

na+efe

 

[heady89]

Simple, i'd pay my life.
But really i'd pay anything, price dosn't matter when we get such quality, and it is rare these days , especially on the PC side of things.