WWAUT - Heading Into 2016 With Tripwire
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This grinds my gears, You dont talk about Customers, you use terms like Fans and your "Games"
You make it sound like your a rock band who plays by there own rules.
In all other buissness if you make a promise or make leading claims, you do all to fullfill them with the customer, you dont just claim:
"Like always everything we talk about is subject to change at any time, suddenly and with no warning."
(if i did this in my buissness people would tell me to go away.)
Although i am not a paying customer, (i wont purchase till complete) I have been waiting under the impression for over 6 months that release is immient, or around the corner, essentially i am a paying customer in waiting.... the money is ready to go.
But, this is just dragging on way too long.. Im losing patience.
EA is simply tedious.
imo, It would have been better not to go into EA and just develop it more internally first, that way you have not got "customers" like my self being trolled around on a lure for 6+ months, it is kind of frustrating, i dont want to keep checking if it is full release hanging on to your WWAUT threads.. It sucks.
I dont know why anybody trying to sell something would do this? people just end up going elsewhere to fill there gaming.
Checking the forums every couple of weeks becomes pretty average when all of a sudden they claim everything is subject to change on a whim.
Don Draper > If you want to play the game, just buy it on Steam. There is already enough content to make it worth it. I understand that a lot of people does not really trust "EA", but there is already enough content to consider KF2 as a full game.
Also, if you're losing patience... Well, I can understand, but let's face it :
The EA is "long", but it's because we all assumed that the game was almost "done" in April. If you consider that it was not and that actually tripwire had to release 3 perks in 8 months, it's not that long.
There was no "date' announced for the final release and it would be really surprising if the game was released before April 2016 (one year after the EA).
And again, I would expect the final release to be around September 2016.
Why ? Because, there is still three perks to release and at least one boss/and other kind of ZED. Considering that two of them are totally new perks, TWI needs probably another 8 months.
People who are waiting the game to be on "final release" will simply buy it when it's done. I don't think another eight months will kill the game. After all, there was about 7 years between KF1 and KF2.
And let's not forget the financial advantage for TWI of getting cash with the EA
Also, if you're losing patience... Well, I can understand, but let's face it :
The EA is "long", but it's because we all assumed that the game was almost "done" in April. If you consider that it was not and that actually tripwire had to release 3 perks in 8 months, it's not that long.
There was no "date' announced for the final release and it would be really surprising if the game was released before April 2016 (one year after the EA).
And again, I would expect the final release to be around September 2016.
Why ? Because, there is still three perks to release and at least one boss/and other kind of ZED. Considering that two of them are totally new perks, TWI needs probably another 8 months.
People who are waiting the game to be on "final release" will simply buy it when it's done. I don't think another eight months will kill the game. After all, there was about 7 years between KF1 and KF2.
And let's not forget the financial advantage for TWI of getting cash with the EA
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hey tripwire team
im genuinly exited for future content updates the gunslinger has already been great and a looot of fun to play (even in hoe while most ppl underestemate his potential) also i really have thank you for working so unbleivebly close wigh your comunity i mean you even added the ring of fire efect (wich got sugested on the forums some times) for the gunslingers guns wich looks bloody amazing and all this work you do to try satisfy the community and make the game the best it could be... this is how every dev should do early access
also 2 slight sugestion for balacing...
1st
make the support zed time perk a bit more usefull its not bad but its meh
2nd
most of the people say the comando is a weak uslees(in hoe and suicidical) class but a really easy buff would be to not make the gun wiggel (or at elast not so long) after ervery shot so tab shoting gets more acurat (ik ik you put **** tons in the weaponanimations but please gameplay > looks) and jsut make the scopes overall clearer (its actually hard to aim wigh the red dot sights due to the biiig blury red dots)
dosnt seam like much but would (imo) really help the comando as a class and make sens since comando is what most palyers play getting into kf2
im genuinly exited for future content updates the gunslinger has already been great and a looot of fun to play (even in hoe while most ppl underestemate his potential) also i really have thank you for working so unbleivebly close wigh your comunity i mean you even added the ring of fire efect (wich got sugested on the forums some times) for the gunslingers guns wich looks bloody amazing and all this work you do to try satisfy the community and make the game the best it could be... this is how every dev should do early access
also 2 slight sugestion for balacing...
1st
make the support zed time perk a bit more usefull its not bad but its meh
2nd
most of the people say the comando is a weak uslees(in hoe and suicidical) class but a really easy buff would be to not make the gun wiggel (or at elast not so long) after ervery shot so tab shoting gets more acurat (ik ik you put **** tons in the weaponanimations but please gameplay > looks) and jsut make the scopes overall clearer (its actually hard to aim wigh the red dot sights due to the biiig blury red dots)
dosnt seam like much but would (imo) really help the comando as a class and make sens since comando is what most palyers play getting into kf2
This grinds my gears, You dont talk about Customers, you use terms like Fans and your "Games"
You make it sound like your a rock band who plays by there own rules.
In all other buissness if you make a promise or make leading claims, you do all to fullfill them with the customer, you dont just claim:
"Like always everything we talk about is subject to change at any time, suddenly and with no warning."
(if i did this in my buissness people would tell me to go away.)
Although i am not a paying customer, (i wont purchase till complete) I have been waiting under the impression for over 6 months that release is immient, or around the corner, essentially i am a paying customer in waiting.... the money is ready to go.
But, this is just dragging on way too long.. Im losing patience.
EA is simply tedious.
imo, It would have been better not to go into EA and just develop it more internally first, that way you have not got "customers" like my self being trolled around on a lure for 6+ months, it is kind of frustrating, i dont want to keep checking if it is full release hanging on to your WWAUT threads.. It sucks.
I dont know why anybody trying to sell something would do this? people just end up going elsewhere to fill there gaming.
Checking the forums every couple of weeks becomes pretty average when all of a sudden they claim everything is subject to change on a whim.
And while they're at it, they can design the game exactly as you'd envision it and put your name on the box art, because you're eventually gonna buy it!
The KF2 characters are Horzine mercenaries only there to kill and make money, not to survive. So again, it's not unreasonable that few females would enlist compared to men, men are biologically wired to fight.
Absolutely..fight for your right to wear a purple wig and glasses that ooze style..
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Your posts are utterly tedious.
You're not a paying customer, so it's odd that you keep spending time complaining about the way that TWI is handling their EA. Just wait for the game to be completely released...like any other gamer, with any other game...because that's clearly what you're already doing.
Losing patience? You act like this is the first game that has been delayed from its original release date.
Oh wait, actually, this game never had a release date.
I hope we gonna see a rough road map for 2016. I still dont know what they want to add next and what to fix, or what they think needs to be changed. Some informations about these?
Expect SWAT and Sharpshooter perks.
Expect Demolitions to be rebalanced to some degree.
Expect Flex to work again sometime maybe.
I haven't been playing the closest attention but there's my short list on a few things I've heard them mention.
I allready played the free week end, game needs to be finished before i play it. Id rather enjoy the game playing it complete.
It had been implied that it was being completed in 2015.
They even had a free skin promotion in a huge gaming Mag which was a waste of time. i still have the Code, have not been able to use it since July 2014!!! The mag cost me more than the game i think... atleast it was complete with staples.
But it is too long, it is not exactly a hobby developer anymore, they are a company launching a full playstation title too boot...
They should have stamped out the misconception that the game was near completion, they even had a beta stage, so it obviously was no where near completion when announced. (Promos, Small movies, free content advertising as though the game was complete, now skins etc.. is this game finsihed or not?? )
They do not help the situation by the WWAUT threads either.
It was implied alot, and whenever mentioned never was any speculation stamped out.
Will be interesting to see if TWI come on and make it clear that is only speculation, and that the game will be finished when it is finished.
Dont know... Just was hyped up over 8 months ago, and now im losing my interest. probably now just wait tilll it is bargain bin.
I dont like being tagged along for months on end, id rather most done, then released. (star wars is a good example, barely any media.. then out, smashes box offices, Fall out did much the same)
Serioulsy, most people accept for serious fanboys are not interested in to hanging on to every word of "gonna do this that and the other.. etc.."
Which is what TWI do... Just drag it out, which is perplexing.
How is that my problem? get it finished and i will give them more cash and buy skins and stuff. Simple, so will many others.And let's not forget the financial advantage for TWI of getting cash with the EA
How can i pay if there is no product complete to buy?
Thats my prerogative.
I feel i have been waiting under a false premise that was never quite quashed from the begining, slightly deceived yet continually checking to see if it is ready yet... for 8months!
Actully i cant even remember a game purchased that was delayed. Even ones i wanted, and still want where released on there day. I generally dont buy on the day either.
It was implied, i have watched nearly every bit of video etc.. it had been mentioned they where hoping for a 2015. infact they did release it, just was not "released" is was a EA. bit of oversight there..
If you're beginning to lose interest due to the game not coming along as quickly as you had expected, move on.
Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
Otherwise take the dive and purchase the game in its current state instead of being some diva that only insists on playing a completed, polished product - even with some perks remaining to be released the game is far enough along to be enjoyed.
Your posts in this thread come off completely obnoxious..
Nobody is holding a gun to your head.
Otherwise take the dive and purchase the game in its current state instead of being some diva that only insists on playing a completed, polished product - even with some perks remaining to be released the game is far enough along to be enjoyed.
Your posts in this thread come off completely obnoxious..
Saw WWAUT - Heading into 2016 thread
- Got excited
- Pondered the possibility of some elaboration as to the next perks and/or maps
- Entered thread
- Couple of short [but nonetheless interesting] dev posts
- Half a page of excited customers
- Two and a half pages of ****-flinging
Yeah, the "going into orbit" thing is what piqued my interest... although I gotta say a Moonbase or Satellite Orbital seems now, given KF2's art direction & general feel, unfitting and/or unlikely. Maybe it is something else... eh, but curated weaponskins also suggest a Space theme (Airlock/Aeronaut). "The Pit" looks like it evolved from a Black Forest Baby (or w/e those embryonic-goo sacs were called)... maybe it's a biological fusion of Kevin's children & some space DNA or parasite (like Venon & Carnage from Spiderman). Or maybe the Trader Pods will crash down from an orbital delivery- heh heh. (Oh by the way Scrake lovers, they do laugh in KF2. It is very quiet however & easily over-whelmed with music playing or over the general battle-clatter.)
Nah, yeah... it's probably a Moon Base overhaul.
Nah, yeah... it's probably a Moon Base overhaul.
Remember when the hype was super huge for the Return of The Patriarch update, when people thought that MA perk was being added due to Yoshiro's one comment of his ''ninja outfit being unsuitable for work'' in one of the preceding WWAUT's. Probably the same thing happening here, and I will assume this is the case unless TW offers proof to prove me wrong (which I hope they do, since Moonbase was an amazing map).
Your posts in this thread come off completely obnoxious..
Eh, I think they're valuable, if only for a different perspective on things.
Who knows, without all the outcry for balancing and such we might've seen a release by now if they didn't do early access originally
Yeah, but that was silly because he was referencing to himself sneaking in & stealing the Gunslinger weapon models to show us. The reference was clear for me. He said he got caught, was in trouble & told that his ninja suite wasn't allowed at work. Stretching that to the release of the Dragon class is a bit -hopeful; if anything maybe it was a tip to the Stalker stealth update? Anyway here seems deliberate like when they started dropping Patriarch hints.