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Worst World War II (Themed) Movie Ever....

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#61
dasKaRmA said:
the best WW2 movies Ive seen where:
-das Boot
-der Untergang (the downfall) too bad it didnt win an oscar...

-stalingrad was also nice

worst:
-saving private ryan
-remagen
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The Bridge at remagen was a good film! :eek: How can you say it was not!! One of the few films where you get to see the Germans as the main characters too. I thought it was good, had good actors and was based on a true story!! :D

Why does everyone hate Saving Private Ryan!?!


Downfall? Are you talking about the recent film about Hitler in his final few days? I wanted to see that but have not had the chance! :p
 
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2Gitano
These you should watch
They fought for Motherland http://imdb.com/title/tt0073488/
Ya - russkij soldat (I'm russian soldier) http://imdb.com/title/tt0203217/
Zvezda (The Star, 2002) http://imdb.com/title/tt0326450/
V boj idut odni stariki (Only old men are going to battle) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070861/
Osvobozhdenie (Liberation) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151852/ That's a long movie, basically, it's half documentary, but believe me, it's worth seeing. You better read that comment on imbd, it is well written.
A zori zdes tihie (The Dawns Here Are Quiet) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068161/ Very touching movie.
Dang, i forgot one more: Battalions ask for fire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088777/

Now these i call must-see movies.
 
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#66
For some odd reason, the words "anal retentive" spring to mind... :D
A movie doesnt HAVE to be historically accurate down to such detail as having character use weapons that make you say! OMG! That gun wasnt produced until a year after the movie is supposed to take place!" Just turn off that part of the brain, and look at diaglogue, scenery, character development, ect.
 
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#68
Hi!

Bolt said:
2Gitano
These you should watch
They fought for Motherland http://imdb.com/title/tt0073488/
Ya - russkij soldat (I'm russian soldier) http://imdb.com/title/tt0203217/
Zvezda (The Star, 2002) http://imdb.com/title/tt0326450/
V boj idut odni stariki (Only old men are going to battle) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070861/
Osvobozhdenie (Liberation) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151852/ That's a long movie, basically, it's half documentary, but believe me, it's worth seeing. You better read that comment on imbd, it is well written.
A zori zdes tihie (The Dawns Here Are Quiet) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068161/ Very touching movie.
Dang, i forgot one more: Battalions ask for fire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088777/

Now these i call must-see movies.
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AWESOME!

Thx very much, m8 :)

greetz,
gitano
 
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#70
Heyho,

Arrgh, think i will spend some more money on ebay....Klick and klick :D

Awesome dristributor, btw: www.ruscico.com

Regarding all that SPR criticism, well, i only can say, that one was actually the first realistic ww2 movie i have seen at all...especially the first 30 mins of that film are frightening...great stuff.
I think its kinda difficult for any director to keep the line between shooting the audience into the face and being heroic/ patriotic.
And this film kept it quite good, besides the great acting and awesome scenes it was far away from being patriotic/ heroic/ romatic/ whatever compared to many other films from the 40ies to the 60ies, IMHO...

@LT.Anttonen: FullACK, watched Talvisota twice, great movie!

greetz,
gitano
 
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#71
Saving Private Ryan makes me assume that a movie can be as glorifying as it wants ("I'm willing to bet that even the Captain's got a mother. Well, maybe not the Captain, but the rest of us have got mothers.") and still be considered a valuable antiwarmovie as long as it is gory to no end because it shows the "horror of war". Strange world we live in.:confused:
 
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#72
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Originally Posted by SargeDC
Kelly's Heroes....no others compare :D

Do you know what satire is? All signs point to no.

Do you know what "not reading the topic title completely" means?? I actually like this movie...one of my fav WWII movies - not the most realistic to say the least, but a fun movie

and I can't believe that 4 pages in no one has mentioned 1941. Another "fun" movie, but overall one of Spielberg's worst. A LOT of big names in it....but a terrible movie
 
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Murphy said:
Saving Private Ryan makes me assume that a movie can be as glorifying as it wants ("I'm willing to bet that even the Captain's got a mother. Well, maybe not the Captain, but the rest of us have got mothers.") and still be considered a valuable antiwarmovie as long as it is gory to no end because it shows the "horror of war". Strange world we live in.:confused:
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That's the deal: You can basically be as one-sided, glorifying, stereotype and in many cases racist as you want, as long as you have a minimum of two good guys dead in the end and close with the "old veteran with tears in his eyes in front of the grave of his dead comrade"-scene you qualify for "anti-war movie".

But "Thin Red Line" was good. It's a love-it-or-hate-it movie I guess, but I quite liked it.

And 1941 is a classic. John Belushi ftw.
 
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#75
To be honest I thought Stalingrad was pretty bad. The acting was horrible in places and the editor should be put against a wall and shot for butchering whatever story was in that film.

Winter War was ok, but not great. It seems to be like Come and See, in the regard that because it's rare everyone makes out it was some masterpiece. Both ok films, but nothing special.
 
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#76
Yo,

Ska Wars said:
To be honest I thought Stalingrad was pretty bad. The acting was horrible in places and the editor should be put against a wall and shot for butchering whatever story was in that film.
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Urm, sry but are we talking about the same film? What kinda "butchering whatever" story do u mean?
Oh, and btw, the acting was brilliant in this one. At least those from the german soldiers (ok, i have to admit, i'm a big Dominique Horwitz fan :D), maybe some minor stereotypes, f.e. that sadistic major is maybe a bit overdrawn.
But all in all, never seen such a realistic depiction of german soldiers before in a movie...just normal you's and me's, fighting for a cause they dont even know. Together with all the slangs and 1940ies behaviour... really well done acting.

Ska Wars said:
Winter War was ok, but not great. It seems to be like Come and See, in the regard that because it's rare everyone makes out it was some masterpiece. Both ok films, but nothing special.
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Well, sry again, but what makes a movie "special" for u, then :)? Yeah, i got your point, these both are not so well known and therefore maybe ppl might tend to overrate them a bit....but, honestly, especially "Come and See", i've never seen a more dense and horrific warmovie before...its an absolute nightmare.
If u ask me, that movie is what Apocalypse Now could've been, but whenever Coppola gets close to its horror he suddenly falls back into some beautiful pictures/ common army stereotypes, etc. Klimov is much more consequent, imho, it gets darker and darker all the time...
Gawd, someone must be deaf and dumb not to cry at the end, when after all this slowly W.A. Mozarts "Lacrimosa" rises in the final picture...

greetz,
gitano
 
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#77
Bolt said:
2Gitano
These you should watch
They fought for Motherland http://imdb.com/title/tt0073488/
Ya - russkij soldat (I'm russian soldier) http://imdb.com/title/tt0203217/
Zvezda (The Star, 2002) http://imdb.com/title/tt0326450/
V boj idut odni stariki (Only old men are going to battle) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070861/
Osvobozhdenie (Liberation) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151852/ That's a long movie, basically, it's half documentary, but believe me, it's worth seeing. You better read that comment on imbd, it is well written.
A zori zdes tihie (The Dawns Here Are Quiet) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068161/ Very touching movie.
Dang, i forgot one more: Battalions ask for fire http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088777/

Now these i call must-see movies.
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Ive never even HEARD of any of those! Where the hell are you from?
 
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#78
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battle_of_the_last_panzer/

Anyone ever seen this movie? I can't even remember the details that well, only that a single American anti-tank gun knocked out five Tiger Is and then the Americans went away without taking any of the tanks' crews prisoner. This wasn't what turned me off though. I love Tiger tanks and it upset me greatly that the movie tried to pass off Patton tanks as Tigers. Maybe not the worst movie, I couldn't bare watching a singe Tiger/Patton prowl around behind American lines aimlessly and not get caught and so I turned it off, but fairly close.
 
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#79
@ gitano

In regards to Stalingrad here are my main problems with it:

Cliches - The 'new officer', the evil major, the 'mother' Sergeant
Bad script - Poorly written, and riddled with more cliches. Most of the dialogue was just plot progessors or explainers, no anything to add to the film e.g. "We use Russian guns because . . " "Let me tell you about my wife . . . ", "This war will be over soon . . .", "I'll be a footballer . . . oh bugger, my legs have come off.", "Oh what's the point in going on *shoots self*"
Bad editing - What is the Sergeants and Otto's back story? (hinted at during the mine clearing bit) Sudden jump into combat ("We've lost half our men" when? All i saw was mabye a dozen get hit)
Bad Acting - I'm sorry but some of the acting was terrible. Most of the main cast did their jobs very well but some were just horrible or over the top. The pig bloke (can't remember his name) just annoyed me and scenes like the hysterical soldier in the opening attack made me cringe.

This film could of been so much better, but is let down in too many places just to be shurgged off imo. The whole thing just felt unfinished and unenvolving, I honestly couldn't give a rat's arse about the characters by the end of it.

As for Winter War, from an accuracy point of view it was a little questionable. Been years since I've seen it but I remember the Finns had SMGs coming outta their arse. From what I remember about the Finns pre war records they had nowt but rifles for alot of their lads. The plot again was a bit cliched which put me off, however I have been informed that the English subtitled version is very badly done so this may be why I didn't like it so much (apparently alot is lost in the translation).

As for Come and See, mabye I was a little too hard on that. It was a good film and one which alot of people should see, but due to it's limited availability it seems to have gained this mythic status. It's an ok film don't get me wrong, but it's not exactly a bloody epic like some people make out it is.
 
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