Worst weapon

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dextronaut

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yeh i know lol. AK47 isnt the most accurate in real life but in KF its been far more accurate than the SCAR. the reddot sight on it is constantly shaking around after i take a shot. whereas with the AK, i take one shot, and then it recenters very quickly after the recoil. whereas the SCAR, i take a shot with it, and then it recoils, and then it has this period where its like dooo doo doo dooooo then finally stops.
 

Colonel Panic

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Fire Axe -- weighs too much, not worth any real cash, slow and difficult to use, can't get zed time extensions.

Chainsaw -- useless unless you're berserker, and even if you are berserker, it only slows you down. Unless you're doing something utterly stupid like assaulting fleshpounds on suicidal with it, it has no benefit over the simple knife.

I don't think LAW belongs in this thread. There's no reason you would ever NOT keep it if you accidentally picked it up, because to do so would imply that you have NO OTHER WEAPONS, otherwise you wouldn't have the space to pick it up in the first place.
 

Colonel Panic

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yeh i know lol. AK47 isnt the most accurate in real life but in KF its been far more accurate than the SCAR. the reddot sight on it is constantly shaking around after i take a shot. whereas with the AK, i take one shot, and then it recenters very quickly after the recoil. whereas the SCAR, i take a shot with it, and then it recoils, and then it has this period where its like dooo doo doo dooooo then finally stops.

SCAR is more accurate, the additioonal zoom of the reflex sight just makes it jitter a lot more. Fire in controlled bursts or semi-auto, though, and you're practically guaranteed to hit your mark. Not so much with the AK.

Also keep in mind that the reflex sight is not designed to be used while moving, and that the bullets don't necessarily go where the sight is pointing if the gun isn't centered, due to the recoil or other movement. You can lay down on the trigger, and your fire will still be a lot more accurate than the recoil sight makes it appear.
 

Legify

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SCAR is more accurate, the additioonal zoom of the reflex sight just makes it jitter a lot more. Fire in controlled bursts or semi-auto, though, and you're practically guaranteed to hit your mark. Not so much with the AK.

Also keep in mind that the reflex sight is not designed to be used while moving, and that the bullets don't necessarily go where the sight is pointing if the gun isn't centered, due to the recoil or other movement. You can lay down on the trigger, and your fire will still be a lot more accurate than the recoil sight makes it appear.

Agreed. The SCAR in this game is much more effective on semi-automatic, and usually kills in 1 shot to the head for clots/gores. Plus semi-auto conserves your ammo quite sufficiently.
 

YoYoBatty

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Ahh the Handcannon, my favourite weapon... It was always the highest quality gun in all the KF's epsecially in KF 1.0, that nice shiny skin... Ah the good ol days!
 

YoYoBatty

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you remember the HC in 2.5? perfect for taking down stalkers and crawlers.

I'm having a nostalgiagasm right now because of that! your remember the HC in KF 1.0, in teh SP campaign I raped the FP's with it. Fortunately you can rape them again cuz I ported the sp campaign to kf retail!
 
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dextronaut

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I'm having a nostalgiagasm right now because of that! your remember the HC in KF 1.0, in teh SP campaign I raped the FP's with it. Fortunately you can rape them again cuz I ported the sp campaign to kf retail!

i havnt commented really in that thread, but i love how you put all the maps together like that. im planning to play it next update you do but i have looked at it.
 

YoYoBatty

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i havnt commented really in that thread, but i love how you put all the maps together like that. im planning to play it next update you do but i have looked at it.

Oh, so I guess that private message I sent u was completely unneccessary then?
 

Badbloody

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You must be joking about the ak47, it's a great weapon with a good aim and decent damages (it remove a lots of spec's heads @ first headshot).

Kay the Scar has better damage / weight but the Ak is good replacer to it and still kill a lot of ****ty specs easily (No time to reload with the scar? Kay, take the Ak and save your mates 8D).

Nah seriously, great weapon, better than the mp7 =/. (oh and the one who said "mp7 + SS = Santa claus" must be joking , you got only 20 bullets/mag when you're not Medic and inaccurate as hell, same for the one who said in another topic that SS + Bullpup = Effiency, bull**** =/ )
 

HaTeMe

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I treat 9mms that are on the ground like mines.

Rofl, me too. They are just useless, sometimes Ive gone wasting entire clip from both pistols on a single clot and it STILL didnt die LOL...

Dual Handcannons work much better on crowds but you waste your ammo quickly.

Im not sure if I posted to this topic already, but oh well... Bad weapons?

1. Definately the first prize goes to L.A.W
- VERY heavy, which means you cant carry a backup weapon unless being high level support.
- Low ammo, you got like 15 rockets which is pretty much enough to kill 15 specimens. Which brings us to...
- Low damamage. On suicidal, the blast-damage doesnt even kill gorefasts as far as I remember. Thats just stupid. A direct hit wont kill bloats or anything above.
- Its useless against scrakes and fleshpounds, even tho youd THINK it would be the best weapon used on them..
- Cannot fire without using the sight
- Slow reload
- Expensive, since the weapon is actually ****.
- Very large blast-radius pretty much guarantees that youll kill yourself with it.
- Buggy, sometimes when shooting over certain obstacles it appears to do huge damage to the user even tho the rocket exploaded miles away.. I dont know whats up with that.
- Even m79 is more useful simply because of its speed, weight, prize and ammo capacity. Not to mention m32.

--> Conclusion: L.A.W is more dangerous to yourself than the specimens.


2. Machete takes the second place.
- Weights as much as the katana, which makes absolutely no sense.
- Only better than knife when it comes to bodyshots (or hits), because knife can decap most enemies. Oh and knife is weightless.
- Nobody EVER uses it unless he picked it up from the ground. Will be sold immendiately when the trader opens.
- Level 5-6 berserker can get katana after first wave by selling the weapon he spawned with. Why would anyone ever buy machete instead?

--> Conclusion: Machete should weight 1 block to give it SOME usefullness, so maybe someone might actually buy it to fill up the last block.

3. Chainsaw
- Weights a lot
- Costs a lot
- Makes you slow
- Is pretty much as strong as the katana, which is ALOT lighter and doesnt have movement penalties.
- Decapped specimens are still able to "counter-attack" you

--> Conclusion: Chainsaw is only useful for the first round (when you spawn with it), later on its just making things a lot harder. To fix the chainsaw they should make it stronger but run on fuel.


All other weapons are used frequently (well maybe not the axe, but its surely more useful that any of these above).
 

HaTeMe

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I don't think LAW belongs in this thread. There's no reason you would ever NOT keep it if you accidentally picked it up, because to do so would imply that you have NO OTHER WEAPONS, otherwise you wouldn't have the space to pick it up in the first place.

What? That same could apply to any weapon. If you got no other weapons in your inventory and you picked up the Axe, surely you would use that rather than your knife. I wouldnt use the LAW over my knife unless I happened to see a giantic pile of clots 500m away from me (if it was anything but clots it would be useless and if it was closer than 500m I would die on the blastradius too LOL...)
 

Badbloody

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1. Definately the first prize goes to L.A.W
- VERY heavy, which means you cant carry a backup weapon unless being high level support.
- Low ammo, you got like 15 rockets which is pretty much enough to kill 15 specimens. Which brings us to...
- Low damamage. On suicidal, the blast-damage doesnt even kill gorefasts as far as I remember. Thats just stupid. A direct hit wont kill bloats or anything above.
- Its useless against scrakes and fleshpounds, even tho youd THINK it would be the best weapon used on them..
- Cannot fire without using the sight
- Slow reload
- Expensive, since the weapon is actually ****.
- Very large blast-radius pretty much guarantees that youll kill yourself with it.
- Buggy, sometimes when shooting over certain obstacles it appears to do huge damage to the user even tho the rocket exploaded miles away.. I dont know whats up with that.
- Even m79 is more useful simply because of its speed, weight, prize and ammo capacity. Not to mention m32.

--> Conclusion: L.A.W is more dangerous to yourself than the specimens.

Ive already killed 24 specs with one shot 2 weeks ago . It's great to kill all the ****ty things but yeah, against fp / scrake it doesnt have a good efficiency . As support, getting the Law + shotty make a good mix, i like that combo . And you've forget the one who take the law against the patty, kay it's not so efficiency but 650*15 shot = 10250 dmg . Not that bad .

2. Machete takes the second place.
- Weights as much as the katana, which makes absolutely no sense.
- Only better than knife when it comes to bodyshots (or hits), because knife can decap most enemies. Oh and knife is weightless.
- Nobody EVER uses it unless he picked it up from the ground. Will be sold immendiately when the trader opens.
- Level 5-6 berserker can get katana after first wave by selling the weapon he spawned with. Why would anyone ever buy machete instead?

Well, i do use the machette very often . It make the things more challengin' and funny as Berzerker and it cost nothing , 100
 

HaTeMe

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Using the weps for the challenge is entirely another thing. That doesnt make them useful. There is no situation where you would prefer using machete over other melee weapons.

LAW instead, that weapon got so many drawbacks that its just utterly useless for serious gameplay. Tho, if you want to have some - eh - fun, then maybe.

But try picking machete and LAW for suicidal and tell me how long you survived.
 

Wail

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Mostly agreed with LAW, Dual 9mm/HC, Machete, Chainsaw.

The MP7 is a decent weapon but the big annoyance with it (to me) is the dud darts. I'm not even talking about it's extreme ping-dependency, or the inability to heal teammates with specimens around them.
Very frequently you can shoot a teammate who is merely walking and your dart will shoot, connect with their body in a puff of green smoke... And nothing happens.

I really wish there were a small 1-target friendly-only AOE(aka "Explosion") on the dart point of impact, I think it would minimize a lot of the frustration of having to dart multiple times to get off a successful heal.
 

CandleJack

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Mostly agreed with LAW, Dual 9mm/HC, Machete, Chainsaw.

The MP7 is a decent weapon but the big annoyance with it (to me) is the dud darts. I'm not even talking about it's extreme ping-dependency, or the inability to heal teammates with specimens around them.
Very frequently you can shoot a teammate who is merely walking and your dart will shoot, connect with their body in a puff of green smoke... And nothing happens.

I really wish there were a small 1-target friendly-only AOE(aka "Explosion") on the dart point of impact, I think it would minimize a lot of the frustration of having to dart multiple times to get off a successful heal.

You're just sucking with the MP7M.

I'm perfectly fine, even with higher than normal ping, i can still hit my targets most of the time.

While the shi tty hitboxes make healing a pain, you need to aim a little better. I know i have to.
 

9_6

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You're just sucking with the MP7M.

I'm perfectly fine, even with higher than normal ping, i can still hit my targets most of the time.

While the shi tty hitboxes make healing a pain, you need to aim a little better. I know i have to.
I can vouch for this having nothing to do with aiming at all.